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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I suspect most agencies run the ESRI suite of products in the background for all their GIS and incident mapping and they may port data or maps to other apps (maybe in realtime or daily, weekly or at least seasonally). Collector is an ESRI app for collecting field data which is likely fed back in realtime during fires to a centralised location for updating maps that may then get pushed back to tablets/apps in the field. OK if you have a connection.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>From experience, if something doesn’t ‘feel right’ at a fire then folks, especially volunteers, will grab their phone and use what they are familiar with – be it Google, Avenza, OSM or one of many other apps. The further you move from the city the less folks trust Google as its woeful in many areas (as we have all no doubt heard on many occasions).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The beauty of exposing folks to OSM is that once they understand the process they get the ability to update the maps and see results either immediately or on the next update. If you have ever tried getting more remote features updated on Google you will know what a hassle that can be (if at all!!).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I generally would not consider adding Lot/Plan details to OSM. Generally when land is sold/subdivided then addresses are assigned ‘fairly quickly’ and become the norm for locating the places.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers - Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 September 2022 4:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> stevea <steveaOSM@softworkers.com><br><b>Cc:</b> OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks all for thoughts, including yours from over there, Steve!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It may be worth approaching "Fire & Rescue" in each State to ask them directly?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A bit of feedback from another forum, says that in NSW the RFS still use a lot of paper maps, although I of them thinks that officially a system called Collector is in use, but he doesn't know t much about it?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>He & another bloke from Vic RFS both use an "RFS Buddy" app, which gives lat/long or grid coords, but doesn't include a map.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've been adding some street numbers to a couple of rural roads that I know (using a public source!) - would there be any advantage to including Lot & Plan numbers? eg 154 FOREST HOME RD, RATHDOWNEY is Lot 10 of Plan RP178426. If so, what would we add them as?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Graeme<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>PS Good luck with your planned return & career change, Adam!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>