<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yes, I decided that ‘is_in’ tag is not needed here and population looks good for this suburb with source and fits in with census data.<div class="">Nev <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 22 Sep 2022, at 6:29 pm, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" class="">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">+ 1 for the name without state, country. Those can be found by the enclosing features, there is no need to add tags 'is_in'.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Careful with populations.. they might be for the town and not the area.. would need checking?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">On 21/9/22 22:03, Nev wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:2C4E0DBF-E3CF-4F96-92DD-46F094F7671F@gmail.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks Alex,</div><div dir="ltr" class="">that’s very helpful to me.</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Nev</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 21 Sep 2022, at 9:55 pm, Alex Sims<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:alex@softgrow.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><alex@softgrow.com></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">In general abbreviations and commas are avoided in tagging OpenStreetMap wide, so no don’t add a comma but add an appropriate tag.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The Australian tagging guidelines<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>don’t have an example using a node as a label, but the suburb of Cremorne, NSW does,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5655122" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5655122</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">So in the case of Scarborough, the relation<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11677688" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11677688</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>should have the node<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268549421" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268549421</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>added as a “label”. This will then show up as the “centre” of Scarborough.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The node<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268549421" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268549421</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>should have the name changed back to just “Scarborough” and the population tags moved to the relation.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Alex</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Nev W<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nevwosm2@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><nevwosm2@gmail.com></a><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 21 September 2022 at 8:22 pm<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>talk OSM Australian List<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><Talk-au@openstreetmap.org></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[talk-au] Place name as name=Scarborough, Queensland, Australia<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Hi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">I have noticed that place names are altered to add the state, or country, city in OSM.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Here is an example <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268549421/history" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268549421/history</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">I have tried correcting what I see as incorrect tagging.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">But on reflection, is it ok to define the place with the addition of a comma and further definition?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Is there something on the wiki to point these mappers to that clarifies this?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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