<div dir="ltr"><div>Doing some looking & found this site: <a href="http://lgam.wikidot.com/footpath">http://lgam.wikidot.com/footpath</a></div><div><br></div><div>Some of definitions it mentions are:</div><div><br></div><div>
The <a href="http://lgam.wikidot.com/glossary-of-austroads-terms">Glossary of Austroads Terms</a> defines a footpath as a "public way reserved for the movement of pedestrians and of manually propelled vehicles." <br></div><div><br></div><div>
The <a href="http://lgam.wikidot.com/australian-road-rules">Australian Road Rules</a> define a footpath as "an area open to the public that is designated for, or has as one of its main uses, use by pedestrians." <br></div><div><br></div><div>
Part 6A of the <a href="http://lgam.wikidot.com/austroads-guide-to-road-design">Austroads Guide to Road Design</a> provides guidance for road designers and other practitioners on the design of paths for safe and efficient walking and cycling. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So, it would appear that officially, footpaths can be used for cycling!<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 8 Oct 2022 at 00:33, Michael Collinson <<a href="mailto:mike@ayeltd.biz">mike@ayeltd.biz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I suggest a good consensus basically following the rest of the world <br>
would be:<br>
<br>
1) If a path is clearly marked for use by bicycles then use <br>
bicycle=designated. I.e. "there ARE signs present to indicate bikes <br>
are expressily permitted".<br>
<br>
2) If a path has no signage barring cycling and no clear law or bylaw <br>
preventing it, such as for unsigned sidewalks in most (all?) Australian <br>
states and it is practical to use by bicycle, then use bicycle=yes. In <br>
the real world we cannot expect every legal usage of everything to be <br>
explicitly signed, it does not make sense.<br>
<br>
BTW, the way mentioned is a grass strip used mainly for pedestrian <br>
access. It was tagged by me and I use it regularly by bicycle when <br>
working in that area. There is no earthly reason for removing. I think <br>
the user is basically mixing "yes" and "designated". I should also add <br>
that other types of edits by him are completely in order and I continue <br>
to welcome him in our OSM community.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2022-10-07 11:22, <a href="mailto:forster@ozonline.com.au" target="_blank">forster@ozonline.com.au</a> wrote:<br>
> Hi<br>
> I have been monitoring the edits by a user who still "changes shared <br>
> paths to footpaths as no signs present to indicated bikes are <br>
> permitted" in Victoria Australia.<br>
><br>
> Most of these changes are small ways where there are unlikely to be <br>
> serious consequences, its not worth the petrol (or electricity in this <br>
> case for my Nissan Leaf) to go out and inspect the way and I have said <br>
> nothing.<br>
><br>
> I have commented on way 1008258040 in Changeset: 126886850 where <br>
> bicycle=yes by the previous editor has been removed because there were <br>
> "no signs present to indicated bikes are permitted"<br>
><br>
> There is good street level imagery. It is not a footpath in the <br>
> sidewalk sense. It looks OK for bicycles to me. Sorry to bother but I <br>
> request a clear community consensus again on whether "no signs present <br>
> to indicated bikes are permitted" is of itself sufficient evidence <br>
> that bicycles are disallowed.<br>
><br>
> Sorry to bother you all<br>
> Tony<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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