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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/10/22 17:16, Phil Wyatt wrote:<br>
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don’t suppose you have accessibility data as well? That
would be great to know as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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– suitable for wheelchairs?</li>
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<p>They were put in for things like wheelchairs.. so yes they take
wheelchairs, and prams and bicycles <br>
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<p>I'll have a look next time .. but I think they have tactile
things on the buttons too.. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Sigurjón Gísli Rúnarsson
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sjonni11@gmail.com"><sjonni11@gmail.com></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 24 October 2022 3:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Warin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"><61sundowner@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Phil Wyatt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:phil@wyatt-family.com"><phil@wyatt-family.com></a>; OSM
Australian Talk List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"><talk-au@openstreetmap.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Changing building levels
elevator to description elevator shell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Hi Warin,<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Apologies for
not getting back to you and acting on this.<br>
<br>
We will revisit all these locations and update in the coming
days.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Below is how we
plan to tag the two typical scenarios:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><b>inside a
building </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>The highway=elevator already exists within these ways as a single
node. See example 2 below .. where someone has used it like this.
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That would mean it only is on building level 2.. and it would not go
from another building level. <br>
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That would mean it is within a larger building... <br>
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<p>For pedestrian navigation the highway=elevator as a single node
and the connected highway=footway should work.. <br>
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<p>Indoor mapping is not my thing .. I don't think many here have
tried it. <br>
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<p>Some examples may help? <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/281120247">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/281120247</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/350884415">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/350884415</a> note here the
duplication using <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3566114780">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3566114780</a>
and the node is what the footways connect to. <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3446811813">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3446811813</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/534454027">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/534454027</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4037948794">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4037948794</a><br>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%">building:yes<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%">description=elevator
shell<o:p></o:p></p>
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That would mean it only is on building level 3.. and it would not go
to/from another building level.
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Please let me
know if you are not happy with this approach.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Sigurjon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 at 22:27, Warin
<<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 23/10/22 21:46, Phil Wyatt wrote:<br>
> Hi Warin,<br>
><br>
> Both of those examples were previously
build:part=elevator. Its probably<br>
> worth asking why they changed them to
building:levels=elevator. That seems<br>
> to be a more appropriate tagging.<br>
<br>
<br>
building:part should be a 'part' of a building .. not the
entire <br>
building .. they are both tagged with building=yes.<br>
<br>
One example<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524/history"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524/history</a><br>
<br>
has no past history .. so no previous key of
building:part.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd have no problem with building=elevator_shell, but they
are <br>
building=yes. I am happy to change that too, if
acceptable?<br>
<br>
I have been using building=silo with man_made=silo (key
building for <br>
rendering the area .. man_made just does a symbol).<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> Cheers - Phil<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Warin <<a
href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 8:41 PM<br>
> To: OSM Australian Talk List <<a
href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator
to description elevator<br>
> shell<br>
><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> There are ~260 of closed ways with the tag
'building:levels=elevator'.<br>
><br>
> This tag should have numbers as the value not text,
the number being the<br>
> number of levels.<br>
><br>
> See <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels</a>.<br>
><br>
><br>
> These object all are associated with railway stations
around Sydney and<br>
> appear to have been added by members of TfNSW team. I
have left a message on<br>
> one of their members changeset but have had no reply.<br>
><br>
> There are no other uses of this tag elsewhere in the
world.<br>
><br>
><br>
> My thoughts are to change the tag to
'description=elevator shell' as these<br>
> look to be the walls around the outside of the moving
elevator that is<br>
> presently mapped as a node in these cases.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Examples<br>
><br>
> Way 993829900 <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900</a><br>
><br>
> Way 996164524 <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> Any thoughts?<br>
><br>
><br>
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