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<p>Andrew beat me to it.</p>
<p>There is a speed restriction associated with the "Must use low
gear signs" under the road rules.</p>
<p>It states:</p>
<p>"<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica,
arial, helve, sans-serif; font-size: 15.6px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(238, 238,
238); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline
!important; float: none;">you must drive in a gear that is low
enough to limit the speed of your vehicle without using the foot
brake."</span></p>
<p>Unfortunately it's not a defined limit although in places there
may be a speed limit sign for trucks and buses as well. eg on the
Great Eastern Freeway heading towards Perth.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Ross</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/1/23 11:29, Andrew Harvey wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Good point. If it's a restriction, it should be
more like the maxspeed tag, maxspeed:hgv=*
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<div>So something like low_gears:hgv=designated rather than
using the hazard key.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 11:25,
Ben Kelley <<a href="mailto:ben.kelley@gmail.com"
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<div>Just one thought on this:</div>
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<div>The "use low gears" it not itself the hazard. It is
the steep hill that is the hazard (where the mitigation
strategy for HGVs is to use low gears. Same for
rollover/sharp bend.</div>
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<div> - Ben<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at
10:38, Andrew Hughes <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ahhughes@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank You Greame,
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<div>The <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards</a> tag
seems very appropriate but in my mind, needs a :hgv
namespace.</div>
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<div>still not sure on the actual values
but...tag/values I would appreciate feedback on:</div>
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<div>hazard:hgv=Use low gears</div>
<div>hazard:hgv=Long Steep Descent</div>
<div>hazard:hgv=Use low gears;Long Steep Descent</div>
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<div>Another example I would appreciate feedback are
QLD "Tilting Truck signs": <a
href="https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/warning"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/warning</a></div>
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<div>hazard:hgv=Tilting</div>
<div>hazard:hgv=High Risk Rollover<br>
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<div>hazard:hgv= ?????????????<br>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Andrew</div>
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at 11:30, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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2023 at 10:40, Andrew Hughes <<a
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<div dir="ltr">There are other signage like
"No Engine Breaking", could anyone propose a
convention inline with the above that could
be extended for such additional signage?</div>
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<div>Answering in reverse!</div>
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<div>I thought I remembered something about
"quiet zones" for traffic, so did some
searching & found: <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:railway%3Dlevel_crossing#Quiet_zones"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:railway%3Dlevel_crossing#Quiet_zones</a>,
but which has apparently never been used.<br>
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<div>Also found <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:designation#Quiet_lanes"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:designation#Quiet_lanes</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">The same idea could
possibly be used as designation=quiet_zone,
possibly with quiet_zone=hgv?</div>
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<div>Can anyone suggest the most appropriate
way to take ways where the road is signed
with "Use Low Gears"?</div>
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<div>& maybe the same concept as
designation=low_gears? <br>
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<div>That one could even come in under <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards</a>
as hazard=low_gear_required?</div>
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<div>Thanks
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<div>Graeme</div>
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