<div dir="ltr">I hope this passes your legal Rob. My takeaway is that your implementation shouldn't rely on the OSMF's APIs or data downloads being available, so your operations and use of OSM data would not be impacted if these services weren't available or were returning unexpected responses.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 09:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Rob</div><div><br></div><div>Response received from Legal:</div><div><br></div><div>"
The OSM Terms of Use do not impose any addition restrictions on the use
of the OpenStreetMap geodatabase beyond the terms of ODbL.<br>
We do prohibit the emergencies services and anything similarly
time-sensitive from using OSM Services directly because OSM does not
guarantee uptime or responsiveness. However, while OSM Services include
*data distribution*, they do not include the *data itself*. Thus, the
Department is free to download the planet file and use the data purely
under the terms of ODbL, but should not rely on the existence or
freshness of the planet file download."</div><div><br></div><div>So you should be fine to go with it, as long as everybody realises that OSM is still only updated by volunteers, so could potentially have issues.</div><div><br>
</div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 10:41, rob potter <<a href="mailto:pots253@gmail.com" target="_blank">pots253@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am representing the state transport department <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Department_of_Transport_and_Planning_(Victoria,_Australia)" target="_blank">Department of Transport and Planning (Victoria, Australia) - OpenStreetMap Wiki</a> and we are looking to consume the OSM road & rail networks for our operations.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Lawyers have raised a concern about these conditions, as the road data use is supplied to our emergency services fire and ambulance. We have not started using the information but we are implementing a system of validation and change detection, then produce an authoritative version for other agency consumption.</b></div><div><i style="color:rgb(30,32,33);font-family:osmftext,sans-serif"><b><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><u>Unlawful and other unauthorized uses</u></span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> include</span></span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"> a clause "</span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Operate dangerous businesses such as emergency services or air traffic control, where the use or failure of the Services could lead to death, personal injury or significant property damage;" and "</span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Store data a</span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">vailable through th</span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">e Services in order to evade these Terms (including aiding anyone else in doin</span></span><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">g so); or"</span></span></b></i><br></div><div><font size="2"><i><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></span></i></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Please any advice would be greatly appreciated, ultimately we will enhance the overall content of OSM in the Victoria, but really do not want to cause problems later.</span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Thanks,</span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px none;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Rob</span></span></font></div></div></div></div>
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