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    <p>Possibly a router confusion with driving on the left... most
      drive on the incorrect side of the road and get confused when
      faced with the reverse. ??</p>
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    <p>Only thing I can see other than various offsets is the begining
      of the 2 lane section heading north west .. happens a little
      further along. <br>
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    <p>But everything in OSM  looks ok for routing... <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/23 12:46, Josh Marshall wrote:<br>
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          style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Hi
          Ian,
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          <div>You can copy+paste the URL when you’re looking at the
            section in question on <a href="http://openstreetmap.org"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">openstreetmap.org</a>.</div>
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          <div><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=menang%20drive#map=18/-34.96511/117.82114&layers=D"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=menang%20drive#map=18/-34.96511/117.82114&layers=D</a></div>
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          <div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">I’ve turned the data layer
              on so you can just click on the nodes and ways to see
              their details, and then you can copy that URL to reference
              it:</span></div>
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          <div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853070680"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853070680</a><br>
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            <div style="direction:ltr">So on to the question, I suspect
              it’s a router issue, but quite possibly something to do
              with Menang Drive having tagging with bicycle=yes
              cycleway:left=yes etc, but the Albany Highway ways not
              having anything of the sort, not even lane quantity.</div>
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            <div style="direction:ltr">Probably not relevant, but that
              greater intersection looks like it’s been mapped with a
              variety of aerial sources but without imagery offsets
              being taken into account. The Maxar layer looks like the
              most recent, and once I aligned that best I could (5.24,
              -9.89), there are still a number of roads that are well
              off the imagery.</div>
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            <div style="direction:ltr">And the little bike diversions
              for merging across aren’t mapped… but good riddance,
              they’re definitely designed by someone who thinks that
              it’s fine for cyclists on major highways who could be
              doing 35 km/h to slam on the brakes to take a 90º  turn to
              cross a lane… ugh.</div>
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                <div>On 7 Jun 2023, at 12:00 pm, Ian Steer <<a
                    href="mailto:iansteer@iinet.net.au" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">iansteer@iinet.net.au</a>>
                  wrote:</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My
                      Garmin GPSMAP 66i gives misleading routing
                      instructions at a new intersection on Albany
                      Highway near Albany when using OSM data.  I have
                      looked at the OSM data through JOSM and it all
                      looks good.  I wondered if anyone else can see
                      what might be causing the strange routing
                      instructions.</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The
                      explanation really needs pictures, so I’ve put
                      them in Dropbox:</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Screenshot
                      1 shows the first OSM way of the section in
                      question (highlighted in red) plus some
                      annotations about the points where the GPS has
                      instructions for the two misleading manoeuvres:</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/mk7pmpucvp9y5q6/screenshot%201.jpg?dl=0"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.dropbox.com/s/mk7pmpucvp9y5q6/screenshot%201.jpg?dl=0</a></div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Screenshot
                      2 just shows the other OSM way that covers the
                      section in question:</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpfaip74htzbnyw/screenshot%202.JPG?dl=0"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpfaip74htzbnyw/screenshot%202.JPG?dl=0</a></div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Screenshot
                      3 shows the routing instructions on the GPS:</div>
                    <div
                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hy8r91c5syvq4d/screenshot%203.JPG?dl=0"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hy8r91c5syvq4d/screenshot%203.JPG?dl=0</a></div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
                      don’t know how to give OSM way references, but the
                      intersection is at S34.9647 and E117.8205 (Menang
                      Drive and Albany Highway)</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Has
                      anyone got any clues why the GPS would be doing
                      what it is doing ?</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks</div>
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                      style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Ian</div>
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