<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I know this has been discussed on the list before, but the NSW NPWS has deleted some informal paths at Apsley Falls (Oxley Wild Rivers National Park).<div><br></div><div>These were deleted in 2022 by a NPWS employee, and after discussion were reverted. I re-surveyed them later that year.</div><div>These paths have been recently deleted again, initially edited by a different NPWS employee. (Three different change sets, summarised below.)</div><div><br></div><div>I had thought the consensus last time was to leave the paths in, tagged as informal=yes (unless the path has been formally closed, in which case access=no can be used). Is this still the case? Also, do we need to add a policy to the wiki for similar situations?</div><div><br></div><div>Summary of the edits to this area:</div><div><div>31/12/08 macAlba https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/694496</div><div>ways initially added by survey</div><div><br></div><div>3/10/18 mrpulley https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/63140199</div><div>I split ways (separating the official path from the unofficial path). I don't see the informal paths at that survey (but I hadn't been looking for them)</div><div><br></div><div>24/1/22 Guy Hodgson https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116519029</div><div>(see also https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116520175 - similar situation in Macquarie Pass National Park)</div><div>Ways deleted (Guy is employee of NPWS, tasked by NPWS ranger to delete the ways)</div><div><br></div><div>25/1/22 aharvey https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116568934</div><div>Reversion of previous changeset following discussion</div><div><br></div><div>18/4/22 mrpulley https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119854924</div><div>I visit and resurvey the paths. One path difficult to find (way 29415025), others are visible</div><div><br></div><div>26/6/23 Stephen Stenberg https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/137773356</div><div>(Stephen is employee of NPWS, tasked by NPWS staff to remove the ways)</div><div>Addition of access = no</div><div>foot=yes changed to foot=no</div><div>informal=yes changed to informal=no (this tag change is incorrect)</div><div>note=These tracks no longer exist. Edit from New South Wales National Parks and Wildlife Services.</div><div><br></div><div>1/9/23 Stephen Stenberg https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/140660737</div><div>Addition of width=0</div><div>note=These tracks no longer exist. Based on NSW Spatial Data.</div><div>source=survey;local knowledge;NSW Spatial Services</div><div><br></div><div>18/9/23 Firefishy https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141445146</div><div>Ways are deleted. (Not sure how Firefishy became involved - he's part of the OpenStreetMap Sysadmin team)</div></div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Mark P.</div>
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