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    <p>Some of these could be 'traveling stock routes' used in the old
      days to drive cattle to market. <br>
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    <p>Those are administered locally and 'public access' can be dicy
      depending on past activities (eg littering) by 'the public'. Local
      land owner can be 'defensive' from past livestock theft. <br>
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    <p>Use with caution, possibly best to talk to the local council. <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/12/23 19:15, Daniel O'Connor
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">In SA, there are a number of "Unmade Road
        Reserves". Where it gets a bit interesting is when someone
        either illegally fences it off; or applies for it to be
        transferred to them via something like Roads (Opening and
        Closing) Regulations 2021.<br>
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          Generally, I've mapped these were there is a path, track or
          similar made by people, and where there are
          gates/restrictions/similar; modelled what is seen on the
          ground + left a note/sent email to various councils, who tend
          to be terrible at replying.<br>
          <br>
          You<i> could</i> map some of these as "highway: proposed" but
          there may not be much value in it, since a lot of these have
          been around for decades and never turned into roads or other
          access because it is impractical.<br>
          <br>
          The UK has a similar problem.<br>
          <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access_provisions_in_the_United_Kingdom"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access_provisions_in_the_United_Kingdom</a><br>
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        <div><a
href="https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/35408/rights-of-way-mapping-united-kingdom"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/35408/rights-of-way-mapping-united-kingdom</a><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at
          5:15 PM Adam Horan <<a href="mailto:ahoran@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ahoran@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">When comparing satellite imagery and various
            maps on Vic Maps, you can find what seem to be road
            corridors that don't have roads in them. (I'm looking on <a
              href="https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/</a>
            and <a href="https://mapshare.vic.gov.au/mapsharevic/"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://mapshare.vic.gov.au/mapsharevic/</a>
            and when you show parcel data you can see these linear areas
            that extend off the end of roads, usually in rural areas.
            These linear areas do not show parcel information, unlike
            the surrounding blocks)
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            <div>They tend to be visible in sat imagery too as scrubby
              or rougher land compared to the fields and paddocks around
              them.</div>
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            <div>I would love to be able to legally (and safely) use
              these as walking and running routes in my  surrounding
              countryside, and also allow others to do so. They're
              attractive as they're traffic free.</div>
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            <div>I'll link to some examples below, but I'll ask my
              questions here:</div>
            <div>1. How can I validate if these are unbuilt roads, and
              how can I check what the access is?</div>
            <div>1a. I guess as these aren't main roads that they belong
              to the local council?</div>
            <div>2. If a path is already present then I can map that as
              a simple path, but how could I map and tag the land?</div>
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            <div>Cheers,</div>
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            <div>Adam<br>
              <br>
              Example 1 : 
              Lambert Road, Pearcedale<br>
              <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-38.1829/145.2334"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-38.1829/145.2334</a></div>
            <div>If you look on VicMap you can see the corridor extends
              to the west to meet with Middle Road.</div>
            <div><a
href="https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-2TIhhoK5rNdNfc4m2WxVtMMraiG"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-2TIhhoK5rNdNfc4m2WxVtMMraiG</a><br>
              <a
href="https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.182821%7E145.233097&lvl=17.8&style=h"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.182821%7E145.233097&lvl=17.8&style=h</a><br>
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            <div>This one seems pretty clear to me as there's a nice
              clear wooded line, when I recently passed this on Middle
              Rd you could see an unfenced section.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Example 2 : NW extension of 'Favorite Hill Rd' to North
              Road</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.17566/145.23470"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.17566/145.23470</a><br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-5PIrhAi6EP5M1ivchIyH9lfyGxF"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-5PIrhAi6EP5M1ivchIyH9lfyGxF</a><br>
            </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.174379%7E145.236276&lvl=17.3&style=h"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.174379%7E145.236276&lvl=17.3&style=h</a><br>
            </div>
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            <div>This one is visible on sat imagery, however it does
              seem to be fenced off from the established road.</div>
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