<div dir="ltr"><div>Only thought there is should the note= possibly be a description= ?</div><div><br></div><div>Notes are only visible to mappers on OSM, descriptions show to "everybody" (?) using it downstream.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 at 20:25, Mark Pulley <<a href="mailto:mrpulley@iinet.net.au">mrpulley@iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I’ve prepared a partial revert for Apsley Falls, ready for upload. (Keeping the trail near the cliff, leaving the eastern non-visible trail deleted)<div><br></div><div>The tags would return to what they were before NPWS deleted them.</div><div>highway=path</div><div>foot=yes</div><div>informal=yes</div><div>trail_visibilty=intermediate</div><div>surface=dirt</div><div><br></div><div>With additional tags:</div><div>hazard=cliff (not listed on the wiki, but there are 36 uses in Taginfo)<br id="m_481784860912032979lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 18 Dec 2023, at 8:22 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>So access=discouraged may be the best answer, possibly together with a hazard= tag?</div><div><br></div><div>Incidentally, I never heard back from the NPWS bloke who wanted to set-up an OSM liasion contact.</div><div> <br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 20:02, Mark Pulley <<a href="mailto:mrpulley@iinet.net.au" target="_blank">mrpulley@iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I’m not aware of any restriction regarding staying on marked tracks only. The map on the sign at the start of the walk doesn’t mention any restriction, and the National Parks web site doesn’t mention any restrictions.<br id="m_481784860912032979m_-773517805044551776lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 16 Dec 2023, at 1:32 pm, Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">If there is a general park notice "stay on marked tracks only" combined with the "End of track" I would say that's sufficient to imply you can't continue further and therefore access=no.<div><br></div><div>Without the general park notice but simply "End of track", to me that just means it's the end of foot=designated, and further tracks would be foot=yes and informal=yes, without any access=no.</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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