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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Actually – maybe it did!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PcmFQUWZuM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PcmFQUWZuM</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will add the strip!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Phil Wyatt via Talk-au <talk-au@openstreetmap.org> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2024 8:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ewen Hill' <ewen.hill@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> talk-au@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The Grand Design House is not in that location – its here. As Ewen indicated it didn’t actually go ahead as a runway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-38.40343/145.31695">https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-38.40343/145.31695</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Ewen Hill <<a href="mailto:ewen.hill@gmail.com">ewen.hill@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2024 7:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Wyatt <<a href="mailto:phil@wyatt-family.com">phil@wyatt-family.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Andrew Welch <<a href="mailto:mail@andrewwelch.net">mail@andrewwelch.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> There was a proposal of an air bnb and hangar and is next to a house on Grand Designs TV Show however the runway was never really specced for the type of aircraft that would want to use the runway. So it really is for very small or ultralights only on a 540m and 47m wide with prevailing winds, uneven surface, marine birdlife and ~3% gradient. Warin, any air evacs of the 100 are via HEMS helicopter or boat. Tyabb airport is just north of the Island and so there is probably not a lot of interest in an airfield for the 100 or so residents. I don't know if this proposal got up or as Andrew stated, it had stalled post incident or property sale.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Finally, there is a barge service that runs from Corinella to nearby properties with a pier so I would personally take the extra hour and arrive safely without meeting a bin chicken or other wildlife close up at the wrong time.<br><br>I'm inclined to bin chicken it<br><br>Ewen<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:51, Phil Wyatt via Talk-au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=m-5352758809498457134msoplaintext>May have been an eager mapper after this incident but certainly no sign of a formal or informal strip there<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-5352758809498457134msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-5352758809498457134msoplaintext><a href="https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/plane-flips-after-landing-gear-malfunctions-on-victorias-french-island/video/f61a249832fb86f3fad6be0aa92c3ce6" target="_blank">https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/plane-flips-after-landing-gear-malfunctions-on-victorias-french-island/video/f61a249832fb86f3fad6be0aa92c3ce6</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Andrew Welch via Talk-au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2024 6:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id="m_-5352758809498457134signature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>---</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thanks,<br>Andrew Welch<br><a href="mailto:mail@andrewwelch.net" target="_blank">mail@andrewwelch.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p id="m_-5352758809498457134reply-intro"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi,<br><br>the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted.<br><br>My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it."<br><br>I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing.<br><br>I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area:<br><br><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901</a><br><br>Bye<br>Frederik</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-au mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Warm Regards<br><br>Ewen Hill<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>