<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I’m just following up on this. I haven’t seen the promised Wiki page regarding these edits.<div><br></div><div>Harsimranjit Kaur’s last edit was 17 June 2024. Another user started doing similar edits starting on 8 July 2024. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nova%20Systems%20GAP</div><div>(Or is it the same user with a new account?)</div><div><br></div><div>I’ve found one problematic edit from this user - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/160414255</div><div>Msxspeed through Nimmitabel had been updated in 2021 following an official change of max speed from 60 to 50.</div><div>Maxspeed was still 50 when I travelled through Nimmitabel in Nov 2024. (I had deleted my voice recording file after doing these edits, but found the voice recording in a Time Machine backup to confirm this was correct.)</div><div>Maxspeed was changed to 60 by this user. (I’ve reverted this change tonight.)</div><div>Sources for other changes by this user was "based on NSW Speed Data”, no source was given for this change, and the user has not responded to my query. I looked at the NSW Speed Data site, and it has maxspeed=50.</div><div><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 6 Mar 2024, at 8:52 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>They responded a few days ago but, as we're travelling atm, I didn't have a chance to do anything about it.</div><div><br></div><div>Their response:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">We
sincerely appreciate your efforts in bringing to our attention the
organised edits
rules and guidelines, of which we were previously unaware. We
acknowledge the necessity to adhere to these guidelines and commit to
creating a wiki page for our organised edits accordingly. However, we
kindly request some time to complete this task.</span>
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<div><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Regarding
our compliance with other editing rules, we are confident that we are
fully adhering to them. It's
important to note that our system utilises tools that rely on
OpenStreetMap data. Upon discovering numerous discrepancies in the NSW
speed zone data within OpenStreetMap, we initiated edits to rectify
these inconsistencies.</span></div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Our editing process follows a detailed verification procedure, outlined as follows:</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">A driver reports a speed discrepancy on a specific road.</span></li><li style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">
<span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">The driver report undergoes thorough verification and is escalated for further examination.</span></li><li style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">
<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">We utilise NSW Speed Data (<a href="https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones" id="gmail-LPlnk178828" class="gmail-OWAAutoLink" target="_blank">https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones</a>)
to verify the reported speed limit.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">If the claimed speed limit aligns with the NSW Speed Data, we proceed to update it in OpenStreetMap.</span></li><li style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">
<span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Conversely,
if the reported speed limit does not match the NSW Speed Data, we
reject the claim. However, if multiple
drivers report the same speed limit discrepancy over time, we request
evidence from the drivers, often resulting in the provision of images
depicting posted speed limit signs. Based on this evidence, we update
the speed limits in OpenStreetMap accordingly.</span>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">We
are eager to address any discrepancies that other mappers may have
reported concerning
the edits we have made. Could they kindly provide us with evidence to
facilitate a detailed investigation? This will enable us to reassess and
update our map editing processes as necessary.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Our primary objective in making these edits is to enhance the experience of our drivers and community. Therefore,
we welcome any suggestions or further discussion that would contribute to ensuring the accuracy of our edits."</span></div>
</div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Don't know if that answers the questions you have?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I've suggested that they set up an account here to talk about what they are doing.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>