<html><P>Some comments:</P>
<P>The goals: I wouldn't explicitly include OpenStreemap (international). I'm not even sure if that would be allow. I'd use something like this (derived from the last sentence):<BR><EM>Het ondersteunen en bevorderen van de openbaarheid, toegang tot en hergebruik van geografische gegevens.<BR></EM>This exact sentence may be too generic, but we don't want to limit possible activities and actions too much. </P>
<P>In "Artikel 16", it might be useful to include that the "oproeping" can be done via e-mail. If this isn't explicitly mentioned, it isn't allowed.</P>
<P>For the "maatschappelijke zetel", we have to find someone who's willing to offer an address for this.</P>
<P>We might want to get a preliminary agreement from the owner of openstreepmap.be about the transfer of the ownership of the domain. The actual transfer can be done after the organization exists.</P>
<P>In any case, I'd be interested in becoming a member, even though I haven't been active recently.</P>
<P>Best regards,</P>
<P>Gyrbo</P>
<P><BR>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- <BR>Van : ivom [mailto:ivo.vdmaagdenberg@pandora.be]<BR>Verzonden : donderdag , september 3, 2009 10:23 PM <BR>Aan : talk-be@openstreetmap.org<BR>Onderwerp : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Openstreetmap Foundation: the Belgian Chapter<BR><BR>Thank you first of all for the posted comments and references. <BR><BR>I have picked up a fairly tiny existing bylaw as an example and adapted it <BR>slightly for our purpose. So it is drafting response time for those who <BR>are interested. <BR><BR>I have not cross-checked the draft fully with the fgov documents, but I <BR>think http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Chapter is <BR>the starting point for the next round of email :) <BR><BR>Check the goals, they are most important. <BR><BR>Don't hesitate to work out the discussion off-list on the wiki of cours! <BR><BR>Bye, <BR>Ivom <BR><BR><BR>On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, ivom wrote: <BR><BR>> Hi all, <BR>> <BR>> I have prepared a rudimentary vzw/asbl-stub on the wiki with the statutes of a <BR>> so-called future Openstreetmap Belgian Chapter. Something that should happen <BR>> some time, I thought. <BR>> <BR>> Check: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Chapter <BR>> <BR>> The basic idea here is to create a legal entity that is available locally to <BR>> work with Belgian instances like government, press, commercial businesses, etc. <BR>> Instead of going to the public, wast money, on a personal basis. So, this <BR>> entity should represent the people involved in the OpenStreetMap movement in <BR>> our region in a legal and practical way. I hope you can support this. <BR>> <BR>> The page refered to is in dutch right right now, just as a starting point to <BR>> start to discuss (translation help to french is really appreciated). I am not <BR>> 100% up to speed with MediaWiki mark-up, so this page also looks pretty <BR>> horrible at the moment. I hope that it at least communicates some of the bare <BR>> essentials however. I have ripped the basic structure from <BR>> http://www.lokalenmap.be/VZW/statuten. Please rip the current page apart at <BR>> will to increase readability and multi-language support :) <BR>> <BR>> To be clear, the page might probably need to be translated in French, to be <BR>> comform with the Belgian low for vzw/asbl organisations, but I don't know <BR>> precisely. Maybe, we even could write the whole thing in English and get that <BR>> submitted, but I don't know if that is allowed. <BR>> <BR>> Besides the local representation it is of importance to note that the vzw+asbl <BR>> should preferably be accepted as local representation of OpenStreetMap by the <BR>> OpenstreetMap Foundation (OSMF). For this to happen we have to adhere to some <BR>> rules of the OSMF. Those requirements are in the works howerver. I guess that <BR>> setting up our own structure to match those requirement is a worthwhile <BR>> excercise. Regarding these requirements, please read: <BR>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters#Why_Local_Chapters.3F <BR>> <BR>> Please voice your opinion. And help work out the statuten/(french translation <BR>> please). <BR>> <BR>> The biggest hurdle at this time I think besides from the paperwork is, that <BR>> according to the current Local_Chapters wiki page OSMF asks for 20 signed <BR>> members. That means you and some 18 others, please regard me as a de facto <BR>> volenteer, by posting this email :) <BR>> <BR>> Please note that I am not a Lawyer, and the text is in draft. The official <BR>> document or documents (nl-fr) describing and launching the vzw/asbl, should <BR>> preferably be proof-read by someone knowledgable in the field of the applicable <BR>> law which applies in Belgium. <BR>> <BR>> And, even if you don't fancy becoming a member of the vzw/asbl, you could help <BR>> here too, by involving yourself or somebody that knows about the vzw/asbl law <BR>> in fine detail and help out that way. <BR>> <BR>> Bye, <BR>> <BR>> Ivom <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> Talk-be mailing list <BR>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org <BR>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be <BR>> <BR><BR>_______________________________________________ <BR>Talk-be mailing list <BR>Talk-be@openstreetmap.org <BR>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be <BR><BR></P>