Pol,<br><br>What is important is to know where the coordinates came from. If they got them with help of Googlemaps, then we cannot use them anyway. When I go the the BIPT site, I find information about those antennas that's a lot more interesting than those coordinates (which we can find out on our own, thanks to bing aerial photography). So if we can get permission to use this information:<br>
<br><span class="menuHead">Geselecteerde site:</span> 4150 -> ref<br><br>Philipsgebouw -> addr:housename<br>Philipssite / Nieuwe Kerkhofdreef -> addr:street<br>3001 Leuven -> addr:postcode, addr:city<br><br><span class="menuHead">Status:</span> Operationeel (for the ones that are not operational yet, we should find a way to indicate that)<br>
<br><span class="menuHead" title="4° 42' 47" O / 50° 52' 2.6" N">Coördinaten:</span> 4.71307 O / 50.8674 N<br><span class="menuHead">Lambert:</span> X: 174240 / Y: 173059 m (if these are coming from then, we can also convert them ourselves)<br>
<br><span class="menuHead">Antennes:</span><br><br> -> operator=Base;Clearwire;Mobistar;Proximus<br><br>1. Base: _VB4019B -> ref:Base<br><a href="http://www.sites.bipt.be/pdf/2006/03/20060315BASE03592.pdf" class="cO">20060315BASE03592</a> -> url:Base<br>
<br>2. Clearwire: BE-BRE006_C1 -> ref:Clearwire<br><a href="http://www.sites.bipt.be/pdf/2007/02/20070208CLEARWIRE00202.pdf" class="cO">20070208CLEARWIRE00202</a> -> url:Clearwire<br><br>3. Mobistar: 2-092-F1<br><a href="http://www.sites.bipt.be/pdf/2005/12/20051221MOBISTAR03768.pdf" class="cO">20051221MOBISTAR03768</a> / <a href="http://www.sites.bipt.be/pdf/2004/02/20040226MOBISTAR01654.pdf" class="cO">20040226MOBISTAR01654</a><br>
<br>5. Proximus: 16LEP_01 / 16LTV_02<br><br>Or something of the kind.<br><br>So if the coordinates don't come from themselves, then we do some legwork and find those locations on our own one by one, using the addresses. What I'm trying to say is, that it's more important to get permission to republish their information about the antennas, than to get permission to use the coordinates they got for them. We can relatively easily reproduce the locations, but it's a lot harder for us to know what providers are being served by which antennas. (Not entirely impossible, but you would need 'abonnement' with all the Belgian providers to find out the strength of the signal and maybe a hacked phone to determine which cell on the network they are serving)<br>
<br>Polyglot<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/21 Pol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.paolino@gmail.com">d.paolino@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 22:51, Wouter Hamelinck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptityeti@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptityeti@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Even if I have to admit that I sympathise with Pol's action, there is<br>
clearly no permission so it is a clear no go. Too bad.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Yep, if you deem it, no problem.</div><div class="im"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I can certainly understand that you went after the data. I also have<br>
some datasets that I "found" somewhere and am not supposed to have.<br>
Use them for yourself if you wish, we won't stop you, but don't put<br>
the work of the whole OSM community in danger by importing them into<br>
OSM.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>It's not my intention at all, by far !!! I'm a contributor and I want OSM to be the best map for everyone, everyday.</div><div><br></div><div>Can't wait for tomorrow ! I'll call them and I hope that I'll have the good arguments in my mouth when I'll explain the situation and why we would like to have it on OSM (<i>which is the hardest part</i>).</div>
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