Well, I don't say things are not ok, just that we have zero support from our (many) goverments, as far as I know, and a big wall is hit with them because we do not have a "legal body".<br><br>In my view, any local chapter would be 99% a channel between our local authorities and the OSMF. Local animations, community, mapping parties, etc... would be out-of-scope, unless some wants to use the "label" for such. <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/1 Julien Fastré <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julienfastre@gmail.com">julienfastre@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
(Following my opinion, a Belgian Local Chapter might help the community, without taking the place of this community... I am volunteer to discuss those points)<br>Julien<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 1 juin 2011 14:33, Julien Fastré <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julienfastre@gmail.com" target="_blank">julienfastre@gmail.com</a>></span> a écrit :<div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">Something good to read is the brochure from the Ministry of Justice : <a href="http://www.just.fgov.be/cgi_justice/publications/show_pdf.pl?id=63" target="_blank">http://www.just.fgov.be/cgi_justice/publications/show_pdf.pl?id=63</a> (french) <a href="http://www.just.fgov.be/cgi_justice/publications/show_pdf.pl?id=64" target="_blank">http://www.just.fgov.be/cgi_justice/publications/show_pdf.pl?id=64</a> (dutch)<br>
<br>I think it was not necessary because things seemed to be ok until now...<a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2009-August/000876.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2009-August/000876.html</a> and follow the threads<div>
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<br>Julien<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/1 Chris Browet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cbro@semperpax.com" target="_blank">cbro@semperpax.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Why was it deemed not necessary?<br><br>Is it because usually administration does not requires it (which I doubt) or just because a lack of opportunity to get open data in Belgium?<br><br>If you need members/administrators, you can count me in.<br>
For reference, a site which looks interesting regarding asbl/vzw (in french): <a href="http://www.assoc.be" target="_blank">http://www.assoc.be</a><br><font color="#888888"><br>- Chris -</font><div><div></div><div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/1 Julien Fastré <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julienfastre@gmail.com" target="_blank">julienfastre@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">The question of the Belgian Local Chapter was discussed a couple of month ago, but the idea was abandoned because there was no need for that. <br>
<br>If someone want to relaunch the idea, I am quite volunteer to associate. <br>
<br>We discussed about that after the informal meeting in Liege on the 13th May (drinking a beer /after/ the meeting). Ivo was there: maybe he will give his point of view on the subject. (if I have more time monday, i can also give mine... But i am on holiday until monday)<br>
<br>Julien<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>2011/6/1 Chris Browet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cbro@semperpax.com" target="_blank">cbro@semperpax.com</a>></span><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
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> See<br>
> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters</a>. Someone is<br>
> (was?) working on a local chapter for Belgium, apparently?<br>
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</div>who ?<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Se below, in the list of local chapters. Ivo van den Maagdenberg is the name. <br><br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
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It could be god to also build up the proposal, for the adminsitration<br>
as well as for politicians that we could meet too as they could be<br>
asked to support / decide.<br>
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For example :<br>
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1/ where OSM could bring a more precise local map (eg. with maposmatic) ?<br>
2/ where the OSM process of citizen contributions (that URBIS tries to<br>
have) could be helpful for the local authorities too ?<br>
<div><div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div>Thinking aloud, but what about the argument that a filled open OSM database might spare some of Brussels (scarce) money?<br>They could use existing soft (and even infrastructure) rather than managing their own...<br>
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