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Lennard wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">But If you click on the last node of your way, then press Alt while adding
the next node, then you end up with a new way that share its first node
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the previous way.
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Exactly, and that was what he was told in the ticket.</pre>
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Didn't get it at the time. It works, but the function should be in the
other sense: new way without ALT and continuation with ALT.<br>
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<pre wrap="">I entirely disagree with the suggestion to disable autocontinuation, and
am very content with the way JOSM currently works in that respect.
The example in the ticket (starting from a node in the middle of a way
produces a continuation) is convoluted as well. It *doesn't* do a
continuation of that way. That's also impossible in the data model.
In the example (in the ticket) that node is also the endpoint of *another*
way, and it does do a contination of *that*. However, it's made out to
appear that selecting a non-endpoint node of a way and then drawing from
that will produce a continuation. Not so.</pre>
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No, you didn't understand the examples. I never sayed that a road was
boken up in the middle and then continued. It is just when you start a
road on a crossing and there is an other road with endpoint present,
JOSM will continue that way and this is unexpected and unwanted
behaviour for most users.<br>
A crossing A in a T joint with ways BAC and DA becomes a cross with
two ways BAC and DAE, while main way BAC plus two side ways DA and AE
was intented.<br>
This is exactly what happens when editing at node 803205990.
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<pre wrap="">In short: use the modifier key when drawing a new way from an existing
endpoint node. Don't go through all the hoopla of extending a way, then
splitting it, deleting the tags, applying new tags. That only makes life
difficult and indeed obfuscates the way history.</pre>
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As most often, you intend to add a new road, the default behaviour
should be like that.<br>
Only for the exceptional times you really want a continuation, you
should have to use a modifier key.<br>
(Count once your ways when editing and compare extended existing versus
added new ways)<br>
The splitting and additional obfuscating happens, while this seems the
obvious way for most users of getting out of this unexpected alongation.<br>
For some messy results see my examples Verstrekenstraat and Jachtdreef.
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Regards,<br>
Gerard.<br>
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