Suburbs or neighbourhoods is just a difference in size according to the English wiki. I believe Oostende is not such a big city, so I proposed neighbourhood. But suburb would also work (although that would mean the documentation has to be changed).<br>
<br>Note that some of those "wijken" are also deelgemeentes. Am I right that you would like to see this subdivision?<br><br>Centrum -> town Oostende<br>Konterdam-Meiboom -> suburb Konterdam-Meiboom<br>Mariakerke-Nieuwekoers -> suburb Mariakerke-Nieuwekoers<br>
Raversijde -> suburb Raversijde <br>Stene -> town Stene (11.000 inh according to Wikipedia, and a deelgemeente)<br>Vuurtoren -> suburb Vuurtoren<br>Westkwartier-Vlaams plein -> suburb Westkwartier-Vlaams plein<br>
Zandvoorde -> village Zandvoorde (deelgemeente)<br><br>I only have a problem with Raversijde here. As it looks quite separated from the centre of Oostende, I would call it hamlet instead of a suburb.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2012/6/24 Georges De Gruyter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zors1843@gmail.com" target="_blank">zors1843@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Wouldn't it be better then to use the "wijken" as stipulated in the site of the city as "suburbs" :<div><br></div><div><a href="http://oostende.be/wijkinfo" target="_blank">http://oostende.be/wijkinfo</a></div>
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<br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div>Georges<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/24 Gerard Vanderveken <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Ghia@ghia.eu" target="_blank">Ghia@ghia.eu</a>></span><br>
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Hi,<br>
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I woukld not change it<br>
place=hamlet. fits fine for Mariakerke<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Map_Features#Plaats_.28place.29" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Map_Features#Plaats_.28place.29</a><br>
Hamlets typically do have a church and form a separate community.<br>
suburbs are districts in cities, while neighbourhoods are more a group
of rural isolated houses (all without churches)<br>
That's what I think of it.<br>
Regards,<br>
Gerard.<br>
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Sander Deryckere wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="http://midCABUOUO_Zwv27Da5NjqOpCQSBPSRSRK=pxVJAuzE05Au6+XzGJA@mail.gmail.com"><div><div>Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm busy drawing and correcting boundaries in W-VL. And for Oostende, I
have a strange issue (<a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oostende" target="_blank">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oostende</a>).
<br>
<br>
The deelgemeenten of Oostende are Zandvoorde and Stene (as those are
the only ones that were still independent before the fusion of the
70's). The hamlet Raversijde used to be part of Middelkerke, and it's
still rather separated from the main centre of Oostende.<br>
<br>
But Mariakerke was completely merged with Oostende in 1899 (so it can't
be considered as a deelgemeente). Because it isn't a deelgemeente, this
automatically means it should get the tag place=hamlet. This while
Mariakerke has over 10.000 inhabitants, so it should deserve a title
place=town when it wasn't merged so soon.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Places" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Places</a><br>
<br>
I would like to use the tag place=neigbourhood for Mariakerke.<br>
<br>
What do you think about the following definition?<br>
<br>
When the place has the name of a municipality or a deelgemeente, the
definitions stay as they are<br>
<br>
When the place doesn't have the name of a municipality or deelgemeente,
the tags place=hamlet and place=neighbourhood are used<br>
<br>
place=hamlet is used when the residential area is clearly separated
from other residential areas.<br>
place=neighbourhood is used when the residential area is part of the
residential area of a city, town or village.<br>
<br>
This follows my feeling about a hamlet being something rural, while a
neighbourhood is part of a bigger residential area. And it also follows
the international conventions (more or less) on the wiki: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Place" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Place</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Sander<br>
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