I do think that some OSM projects would be interested in sharing such a devroom<br><br>Both projects have similar concerns:<br><ul><li>licensing of data</li><li>finding open data sources <br></li><li>motivating contributors</li>
</ul>But there are also differences<br><br>Wikipedia has more conflicts, so they have more conflict-resolving tools (like a complete anarchy of moderators). Wikipedia could give extra talks about the "social" aspect of collecting data.<br>
<br>OSM data (in contrary to Wikipedia data) can't be used or edited without special software. So we could ask for different software authors. <br><br>Having a mapping party could be interesting, although I doubt a lot of people would join. There are so many interesting talks on FOSDEM, while you can go out mapping at any time of the year. <br>
<br>Some subprojects we could talk about:<br><br><ul><li>H.O.T. project: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hot">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hot</a></li><li>OSM editors: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor</a></li>
<li>Rendering OSM data: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rendering">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rendering</a> (probably small renderer like Maperitive or Tilemill is better to talk about than the server-renderer Mapnik, with a workshop "render your own maps")<br>
</li><li>Routing software: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing</a> Some of these routes have great algorithms, like Monav. It would also be interesting to discuss the parsing from plain OSM data to a routable graph: how are all those different tags implemented (maxweight, maxheight, speed restrictions, road classifications ... ) to calculate the optimal route</li>
<li>How to get OSM data on existing navigation devices: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin</a></li><li>OSM as offline data on your mobile device: A talk about an app as OsmAnd or Navit (which combines all the uses - rendering, routing and searching - in one app, on a general-purpose mobile device)<br>
</li></ul>I think there would be talks enough (and will even have to cut in them) to join a devroom.<br><br>Regards,<br>Sander<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/8/13 Jo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm adding talk-be to this discussion.<br><br>I'm living 30km from Brussels, so I can easily come to help with a stand or a dev room. Last year I helped out at the Openstreetmap stand and there was definitely an interest in the project.<br>
<br>Do you see a stand in a dev room as some sort of mapping party or an actual effort to create/discuss code of editors/renderers/PostGIS and the like?<br><br>Polyglot<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/8/13 Katie Filbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:filbertk@gmail.com" target="_blank">filbertk@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Would OSM folks be interested in being part of a devroom at FOSDEM? It could make sense to partner with the Wikimedia folks?<div>
<br></div><div>Who typically handles stuff like this? I've not been to FOSDEM yet but probably will go this year.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Katie</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Arthur Richards</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arichards@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">arichards@wikimedia.org</a>></span><br>
Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers<br>To: Siebrand <<a href="mailto:Mazeland@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">Mazeland@xs4all.nl</a>>, Wikimedia developers <<a href="mailto:wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br><br><br>It would be awesome if we could put together a devroom at FOSDEM.<br>
<br>
Over the last couple of years, FOSDEM has become my favorite<br>
conference. The ethos of the conference is fantastic - totally<br>
grassroots, transparent, and open. It draws an unbelievable crowd. The<br>
technical breadth and depth of the talks is generally impressive. And<br>
the Wikimedia/Mediawiki-related talks pack the rooms - at least they<br>
did the last couple of years. We should have a much bigger presence at<br>
this event - from my perspective, it seems like it is a fantastic<br>
learning, community building, and recruiting opportunity - perhaps<br>
even more so than most of the other conferences at which we have a<br>
presence.<br>
<br>
If folks think this would be something cool to do, it might also be<br>
worth teaming with some other similarly-minded orgs with some overlap<br>
- like Mozilla, Creative Commons, OLPC, CiviCRM, etc. From the<br>
invitation for proposals, it sounds like this would increase our odds<br>
at securing a devroom, it would certainly help us further<br>
cross-pollinate, and ultimately strengthen the broader open source<br>
community.<br>
<br>
What do you all think?<br>
<br>
Arthur<br>
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On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Siebrand Mazeland <<a href="mailto:s.mazeland@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">s.mazeland@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Subject: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers<br>
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> Date: Sun, August 12, 2012 14:40<br>
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> FOSDEM is a non-commercial event offering open source communities a<br>
> place to meet, share ideas and collaborate. It is renowned for being<br>
> highly developer-oriented and brings together 5000+ geeks from all over<br>
> the world. FOSDEM will take place in Brussels, Belgium on the 2nd and<br>
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> We invite proposals for *devrooms* and *main track talks*:<br>
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> *Main Track Talks*<br>
> The main tracks host high-quality seminars for a broad and technical<br>
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