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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'll look at it! Thank Jo.<br>
      <br>
      Maybe I don't get a blue 'lining' because of my browser (Firefox
      16 (beta)) or OS (Mac OSX 10.8.1)?<br>
      <br>
      Kind regards,<br>
      Joren<br>
      <br>
      Op 5/09/12 08:54, Jo schreef:<br>
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cite="mid:CAJ6DwMAtA8Zk792q4RZcW8LnHvJLGhj+GRCsePDGj4683jCPNg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">This is quite odd. When I try it with Potlatch, the
      target road gets a blue 'lining', whether there is a target node
      or not.<br>
      <br>
      I'll work on a little video tutorial for JOSM tonight. I already
      created some for more complicated stuff in this channel:<br>
      <br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://www.youtube.com/user/yoyo77777yoyo">http://www.youtube.com/user/yoyo77777yoyo</a><br>
      <br>
      There is no sound. Some have captions, but unfortunately many of
      the shortcut keys were changed over the past few months.<br>
      <br>
      b instead of w to create a building<br>
      del instead of d to delete what is selected<br>
      x is still extrude, but it's more efficient to double click to add
      a node on a building contour (while in extrude mode) than to add
      it with a, then select it with s. (so I have also been learning
      since I created those videos)<br>
      <br>
      j will do what you want to do: join a node to the nearest way(s)<br>
      m will merge two or more nodes. The last node that was added to
      the selection is the one that will remain<br>
      g will detach a node from a way<br>
      c will combine two ways<br>
      <br>
      Jo<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/5 Joren DC <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            href="mailto:joren.libreoffice@telenet.be" target="_blank">joren.libreoffice@telenet.be</a>></span><br>
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            <div>The problem is that it doesn't 'change appearence'.
              When I just drag the road to the other road, it wouldn't
              snap to a point ... because the target road has no node to
              snap to. :s I think I'm stuck right now.<br>
              <br>
              If you find some free time to send a link for a JOSM
              walkthrough (to connect roads)?<br>
              <br>
              Kind regards,<br>
              Joren<br>
              <br>
              Op 5/09/12 00:12, Jo schreef:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">I just tried it once more. It's
                  not needed to have node on the way you want to connect
                  to. As soon as it 'changes appearance', you can
                  release the mouse button. Usually you still want to
                  remove the node you started from by selecting it and
                  pressing 'del'.<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks for helping out fixing the map.<br>
                  <br>
                  Jo<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/5 Joren DC <span
                      dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:joren.libreoffice@telenet.be"
                        target="_blank">joren.libreoffice@telenet.be</a>></span><br>
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                        <div>Thanks for investing your time :-). <br>
                          <br>
                          My method as I thought you meant:<br>
                          <br>
                          - I make sure there is a note on my connection
                          point<br>
                          - I clicked on the unconnected road<br>
                          - Then clicked on the end of my selected road
                          to select the last note<br>
                          - I draw a 'new' streetline from the end of
                          the selected road to a note (I made in step
                          1).<br>
                          <br>
                          I found these unconnected roads by Johan C.'s
                          link: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5"
                            target="_blank">http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5</a>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Kind regards,<br>
                          Joren<br>
                          <br>
                          Op 4/09/12 23:58, Jo schreef:<br>
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                            <blockquote type="cite">I'll look into them
                              in detail tomorrow. You probably did more
                              or less what I said for Potlatch, but some
                              nodes still need to be removed and
                              sometimes the ways need to be concatenated
                              (samengevoegd). Which I might have
                              forgotten to mention.<br>
                              <br>
                              Jo<br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/4 Joren DC
                                <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                    <div>That will be very helpful.
                                      Thanks!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      What did I wrong with my edits?
                                      I'm sorry.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Kind regards,<br>
                                      Joren<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Op 4/09/12 23:52, Jo schreef:<br>
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                                        <blockquote type="cite">I would
                                          love to tell you yes, but
                                          there are still some issues...<br>
                                          <br>
                                          BTW, how do you find those
                                          unconnected ways?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          If you like I'll create a
                                          'screencast' (a recording of
                                          an editing session) with JOSM
                                          to show how to accomplish what
                                          you try to do. I see you are
                                          also adding bus routes. That
                                          too is a lot easier with JOSM.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Jo<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/4
                                            Joren DC <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:joren.libreoffice@telenet.be"
                                                target="_blank">joren.libreoffice@telenet.be</a>></span><br>
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                                                <div>To be sure: am I
                                                  doing it right? <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/D%21zzy/edits" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/D!zzy/edits</a><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  I wouldn't like to
                                                  mess things up :-).<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Kind regards,<br>
                                                  Joren<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Op 4/09/12 22:55, Jo
                                                  schreef:<br>
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                                                  <div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      type="cite">OK, I
                                                      tried it. You
                                                      select the end
                                                      node which gives
                                                      you a red dashed
                                                      line, move it over
                                                      the node and the
                                                      nodes of the
                                                      target way become
                                                      blue.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      My advice though:
                                                      get used to the
                                                      more powerful tool
                                                      in the box. It's
                                                      worth it later on.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Jo<br>
                                                      <br>
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                                                        class="gmail_quote">2012/9/4

                                                        Joren DC <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:joren.libreoffice@telenet.be"
                                                          target="_blank">joren.libreoffice@telenet.be</a>></span><br>
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                                                          <div>Jo,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I'm sorry, I
                                                          use Potlatch
                                                          2. But I
                                                          installed JOSM
                                                          a while ago.
                                                          I'll try it
                                                          with JOSM, but
                                                          I'm not that
                                                          familiar with
                                                          JOSM.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Kind regards,<br>
                                                          Joren<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Op 4/09/12
                                                          22:44, Jo
                                                          schreef:<br>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">Which

                                                          editor are you
                                                          using?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          With JOSM you
                                                          select the
                                                          endnode first,
                                                          then the node
                                                          you want to
                                                          connect it to,
                                                          while holding
                                                          Ctrl of Shift,
                                                          then m for
                                                          merge.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          In Potlatch
                                                          I'm not sure.
                                                          Somebody else
                                                          will surely
                                                          will be able
                                                          to help you
                                                          with that one.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Jo<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">2012/9/4


                                                          Joren DC <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:joren.libreoffice@telenet.be"
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                                                          <div>Sure!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          But I have a
                                                          question about
                                                          this topic:
                                                          when I try to
                                                          connect the
                                                          road by
                                                          dragging its
                                                          end to the
                                                          connection
                                                          point, it
                                                          doesn't snap
                                                          to the other
                                                          road... How to
                                                          let it snap?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Kind regards,<br>
                                                          Joren<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Op 4/09/12
                                                          22:17, Johan C
                                                          schreef:<br>
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                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">Hi
                                                          there
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Belgium
                                                          is slowly
                                                          starting to
                                                          look a bit red
                                                          again: </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5"
target="_blank">http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5</a> </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>These are
                                                          all
                                                          unconnected
                                                          ways which
                                                          will cause
                                                          routing errors
                                                          in any
                                                          navigation
                                                          device based
                                                          on OSM. Is
                                                          anybody
                                                          willing to
                                                          remove these
                                                          red dots in
                                                          his/her
                                                          province?<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">2012/6/3



                                                          Sander
                                                          Deryckere <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sanderd17@gmail.com" target="_blank">sanderd17@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                                                          looks like, in
                                                          half a month,
                                                          that most
                                                          problems are
                                                          gone now. At
                                                          least almost
                                                          all problems
                                                          concerning
                                                          routability
                                                          for cars are
                                                          gone, and the
                                                          others are
                                                          also
                                                          diminishing. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thanks again
                                                          for mentioning
                                                          this here. We
                                                          do a lot
                                                          better than
                                                          the UK now,
                                                          and even
                                                          better than
                                                          some parts in
                                                          Germany.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          Sander<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">2012/5/15




                                                          Johan C <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">Hi, is




                                                          anyone
                                                          familiar with
                                                          this site: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=4.32973&lat=50.82125&zoom=9"
target="_blank">http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=4.32973&lat=50.82125&zoom=9</a>
                                                          showing
                                                          several
                                                          hundred
                                                          routing
                                                          problems in
                                                          Belgium? </div>
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