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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2012-11-19 10:52, Benoit Coumont
wrote :<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50AA0172.2080609@bawet.org" type="cite">Hello
everybody,
<br>
<br>
I found this file with the localisations of zones 30 in Belgium
(streets where the speed is limited to 30 km/h). It's collected by
some people on this forum of gps users with the objective to see
them on their gps software:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=123619">http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=123619</a>
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<br>
I writed to Jean Herman (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hermanjean57@hotmail.com">hermanjean57@hotmail.com</a>), the manager of
this collect. He's ok to give this work to the OSM community. He
told me the difficulty to organize the management and confess the
slow death of this project. He didn't know OpenStreetMap, so I
presented to him the advantages of OSM could give for this work.
But I'm not sure he's ready or able to use OSM on his gps.
<br>
<br>
Anyway, there are data we could use. But it's saved on a strange
file (ov2) non recognized by the famous gspbabel. He use a free
(free as a free beer and not as freedom of speech) software for
windows called POIedit. I only use Linux on my computers so I
couldn't do the conversion. Could somebody do that and post the
result on the wiki?
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What do you mean, "only Linux"? With "only Ubuntu", I ran the
following command<br>
<pre>perl -pe 's/^^(.*), +(.*),.*\] +([^(]*)\(?([^)]*).*\@.*/$2\t$1\tZones30\/zone30.png\t32,32\t0,0\t$3\t$4/' zone30_BE.utf8> POIs.txt
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that transformed the file <a
href="http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/Zones30/POIs.txt">to
this format</a> to be used to produce <a
href="http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/OpenLayers_Vector_fast.html?zoom=11&lat=50.53654&lon=5.53611&layers=BFFFFFTFFFFFT">this
POI map</a>.<br>
Other POIs demos via <b><big>+</big></b> button. I have a version
with Google and Bing as backgrounds, but as they're earning money
with that and give me nothing of it, I don't show these maps ;-)<br>
<br>
The "only other" system does most probably not run that command and
it doesn't know UTF-8 either. I've had to convert the asc file to
UTF-8. <a href="http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/Zones30/">All
the files are here</a>.<br>
<br>
After installing Wine, you will probably be able to run POIedit.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:50AA0172.2080609@bawet.org" type="cite">If
someone put this on the OSM database for his neighborhood, for his
district and for his city, we could get quickly a map of speed
limitations... Itoworld published a map to see that :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.itoworld.com/map/35#fullscreen">http://www.itoworld.com/map/35#fullscreen</a>
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Unfortunately, one shouldn't write a file and use it to map on OSM.<br>
One should update OSM and produce the files with it.<br>
To update OSM, one must know the coordinates for the start and end
of the limit.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:50AA0172.2080609@bawet.org" type="cite">I'm
particularly convinced convinced that speed moderation is the best
way to rediscover conviviality in our residential streets. Also, I
added the 6 zones 30, corresponding to the seven school sites, in
my neighborhood (St-Léonard, Liège) to demonstrate to politicals
and residents that a wide zone 30 extended area would be more
readable and consistent. An European petition is just launched to
invite EU to take position. Informations and signs are on this
website : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://30kmh.eu">http://30kmh.eu</a>
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I first thought of advising you to write a "howto update OSM for
speed limits", but that's too dangerous to be done by anyone as it
involves splitting roads.<br>
Rather, I would explain the people how to record the beginning and
end GPS decimal coordinates of the limits while waiting for the
children and to use <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs">OpenStreetBugs</a>:
<a
href="http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=8&lat=50.48674&lon=4.61604&layers=B0T">go
to here</a> , high-zoom to the street, click on it and enter
modification requests "limite 30 km/h LL.LLLLL l.lllll".<br>
Or possibly "street number, nnn m north, sss m south".<br>
<br>
I volunteer to make updates if I'm not the only one and if there is
some way to send me warning e-mail without publishing my e-mail
address, such as a mailing list.<br>
<br>
Cordialement,<br>
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