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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
<br>
I made a round up of 50++ OpenStreetBugs Zone30 POIs.<br>
Many around Micheroux down to Fléron were already tagged,
excellent.<br>
But not so up the valley Vesdre, up to Verviers and Near Beaufays.<br>
<br>
So that nobody examine the same "bugs" again, I added a comment
"missing Zone 30" that a hovering mouse shows and I suggest you
leave a similar trace too.<br>
<br>
But I remembered how vaguely someone not aware of mapping requests
changes.<br>
I thought there's a better idea to make them understand what
information we need and how to transmit it. It's to write a Web
page whose URL would be in the comment or anywhere (I hoped it
would be clickable but it is not, but if you select it, nice
Firefox will allow clicking).<br>
<br>
So, I started writing <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_Belgium/Help_us">this
"Help us" general page supposed to expl</a><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_Belgium/Help_us">ain
several things that the general Belgian can do to help our
project</a>. (In French because these POIs are for the people
of Wallonia to read).<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
Should I continue this page?<br>
Would you help?<br>
Can we put its URL in the OSB comments?<br>
<br>
On 2012-11-26 11:32, Jo wrote :<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">The category in OSMOSE is simply called
Openstreetbugs. </blockquote>
OK. It was filtered out :-(<br>
But those OSMOSE alerts are useless because they don't show the
comments.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I went to have a look at some of the bugs you solved
and I think it's important to add why there is a speed limit of 30
or 50.<br>
</blockquote>
As I write above, I did not tag any bug. I just marked those that
were already tagged.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">If the limit comes from a zoneXX or built-up area.
There are other traffic rules that are affected by this as well.<br>
</blockquote>
Where is the Belgian Web page where those who have added those tags
should have read how the Belgian OSM community has decided to tag
areas and speed limits in Belgium?<br>
In particular, what is the definition of the "built-up" area you
speak of?<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">...<br>
Also I think BE needs to be all caps. 'be' stands for the language
Byelorussian to me (I probably spen. When I look at taginfo I
notice that DE etc. is also all caps.<br>
</blockquote>
Both ISO 3166 (country) and ISO 639 (language) specify
case-insensitive codes.<br>
Lowercase is usually used. Context must always distinguish
countries and languages.<br>
As well as Shakespeare's "2 be or not 2 BE" :-)<br>
Although you could, you do not type talk-BE nor taxonweb.BE (1).<br>
You may have noticed that most of the DNS names are written in
lowercase.<br>
Unix uses lowercase and uppercase is a Windows' habit being laughed
at ;-)<br>
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<table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top">country<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">language<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Belgium<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">be<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">fr, nl, de<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Белоруссия<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">by<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">ru, be<br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</blockquote>
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FYI, these poor people have been spread all over by radiation from a
nuclear reactor in (t)Chernobyl on my 40th birthday. Бело (biéla)
means white and <span xml:lang="ru" lang="ru">Черно (</span>tchirno)
means black.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I created a mapcss file that works well together with
the maxspeed.mapcss. It adds an extra white border to streets
within built-up area and a black one outside. An extra brown
border is added to streets that are part of a zone30/50/70.<br>
</blockquote>
Glad to know you did. But what is it for? Do you maintain a speed
limit map and where is it?<br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
<br>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Papou André.</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Jo<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
(1) I have used taxonweb because it always works better than <a
href="http://www.belgium.be/">www.belgium.be/fr/</a> :-)<br>
See the text I have put in bold:<br>
<br>
<table border="0" cellspacing="5">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="3">
<h2>Error 403--Forbidden</h2>
</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="10" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td bgcolor="white" valign="top" width="100%"><font
face="Courier New"><font face="Helvetica" size="3">
<h3>From RFC 2068 <i>Hypertext Transfer Protocol --
HTTP/1.1</i>:</h3>
</font><font face="Helvetica" size="3">
<h4>10.4.4 403 Forbidden</h4>
</font>
<p><font face="Courier New">The server understood the
request, but <b>is refusing to fulfill it</b>.
Authorization will not help and <b>the request SHOULD
NOT be repeated</b>. If the request method was not
HEAD and the server wishes to make public why the
request has not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe the
reason for the refusal in the entity. This status code
is commonly used when <b>the server does not wish to
reveal exactly why the request has been refused</b>,
or when no other response is applicable.</font></p>
</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMCUq7K3PD6iPuUjB4a8RpxZurzJthb+Jn3cqWukx4DTeA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<br>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/11/24 A.Pirard.Papou <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div>On 2012-11-23 00:17, Jo wrote :<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div>The code is definitely Python, using a regex is
just the smart thing to do, whether in Python, Perl or
Java. I had to massage the data a bit as well though,
it wasn't entirely consistent.</div>
</blockquote>
Yes I know. It was a joke. It meant that without regex
your program and mine would probably triple in size. <br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>All these bugs from OSB can also be visualised in
OSMOSE, it has a category for that. </div>
</blockquote>
What about telling us the category name and how to see it?<br>
I see nothing.<br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
<br>
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<td valign="top">André.</td>
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</tbody>
</table>
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