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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2012-12-15 13:03, Jo wrote :<br>
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(And thanks for writing that letter, your French is quite good!)<br>
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cite="mid:CAJ6DwMAUQiwX3R6q_R2bbJHdsPhqw4LMAQnQqqSDtGG8nOz8rw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hi EeBie,<br>
<br>
That's great news! Unfortunately we can't use their map or the GPX
files from their web site without their explicit permission. I'll
try to whip up a message in French to ask for that permission, but
usually the answer to such requests is nyet. Meaning we'll have to
go and survey it ourselves or with help of gpx files recorded by
people who'll go out and ride them. The advantage of doing it
ourselves is that it's possible to make a lot more pictures and
notes and improve the rest of the data around there at the same
time.<br>
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The copyright information must be written inside the metadata,
obtained with a <a
href="http://schemas.opengis.net/wms/1.1.1/capabilities_1_1_1.xml">WMS
Getcapabilities</a> request to or extracted from the GPX XML file
according the <a href="http://www.topografix.com/gpx/1/1/gpx.xsd">GPX
schema (1.1)</a>.
(just like finding the © written in a book or on a record dispenses
everybody to inquire)<br>
But does a © on a map forbid photocopying the map or learning the
route by heart and map it?<br>
<br>
You can also consider listing <a
href="http://cgt.tourismewallonie.be/default.aspx?pg=9e9d7134-fa22-4015-b8d7-768eef2544f2"><font
size="2" color="#800000"><strong>Les itinéraires touristiques
balisés</strong></font></a> (legally official site) for
Wallonie.<br>
Several communes consider that the routes are both cycling and
biking.<br>
<a
href="http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=50.51982&lon=5.71373">I
have mapped routes in the commune Sprimont and Theux</a> with the
official IDs. SP3 and most of TE is missing. I e-mailed both adms
but I've got no reply. Someone made <a
href="http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.56067&lon=5.58773">something
similar in Tillf</a>, but I don't see any official IDs for Tilff.<br>
<br>
I would have liked to add node numbers, but I could not find on the
Belgian OSM wiki how they're assigned. How van I do that?<br>
<a
href="http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.5256&lon=5.7969"><br>
I made a cycle route here</a>. Completely unofficial and off the
top of my head. I chose it because it's almost flat in a very hilly
region, but I do not know how to show that on the map. How could I?<br>
I'd love to draw more if someone around got interested or ever
replied to my e-mails.<br>
Sprimont do not seem to officially list anything bike specific.<br>
Should I be inventive and made unofficial routes?<br>
I'm almost sure some kids nearby would help me.<br>
<br>
We should request OSM to add <a
href="http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=50.51982&lon=5.71373">Waymart
map layers</a> to their site, they're simply great.<br>
Could we suggest firms that use GoogleMaps to use OpenStreetMap
instead and to help them adding to OSM what they need?<br>
<a
href="http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.5256&lon=5.7969"><br>
</a>Please do not change what I mapped, but suggest anything you
want.<br>
<br>
Cordialement,<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:CAJ6DwMAUQiwX3R6q_R2bbJHdsPhqw4LMAQnQqqSDtGG8nOz8rw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I hope you don't mind I'm going to change your nodes a
bit.<br>
<br>
For one the nodes don't need network=rcn or bicycle=yes. It's
enough if they have an rcn_ref tag. This is to avoid having to put
network=rcn;rwn for nodes that are common between walking and
cycling networks.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Jo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Op 15 december 2012 01:43 schreef EeBie <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ebe050@gmail.com" target="_blank">ebe050@gmail.com</a>></span>
het volgende:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jo,<br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">You can add a new
cycle network to the list. <br>
Since this year there is a cycle node network in Namur and
Luxembourg: Famenne-à-Vélo. <br>
See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.famenne-a-velo.be/" target="_blank">http://www.famenne-a-velo.be/
</a>They speak about 350 km in total. <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I encountered a few
node signs <span>while </span>hiking in the region and
tagged 3 of them and one route (154-155) in the
neighborhood of Wavreille <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.12596&lon=5.24383&zoom=16&layers=M"
target="_blank">map</a> . <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The website offers the
possibility to download GPX files of the routes. I don’t
have any idea if it is permitted to use those to add the
route to OSM. <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The application is
developed by Geolives. That company writes that they can
also make applications based on OSM. (the website for
Famenne-à-Vélo uses Google maps). <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The reference list of
Geolives shows also several (walking) routes in Wallonie.
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Erik</span><br>
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