<p dir="ltr">Yep, these are the things I'm looking for. Showing the cyclemap, explaining how they could even use the map for their reports. All stuff like that. But quite tricky to get them in a coherent and short mail. So that's why I proposed to discuss the mail.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sander</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 Jan 2013 21:12, "Glenn Plas" <<a href="mailto:glenn@byte-consult.be">glenn@byte-consult.be</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Just an idea, we could for example ask
to give attention to the cycle map, I find that one of the coolest
high-profile use of OSM (mapping part), that would blend in with
their 'vakantie' subjects well. If you want to go the road of
exploiting their mistakes ;-)<br>
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That the sort of commercial advantage you're looking for ?<br>
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Glenn<br>
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On 01/23/2013 09:07 PM, Jo wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I'm not in a rush. Would you like to prepare a message
on the wiki?<br>
<br>
Jo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/1/23 Sander Deryckere <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sanderd17@gmail.com" target="_blank">sanderd17@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<p dir="ltr">Wait a bit, this is national tv, with a little
negotiation, we should also be able to get a bit of
commercial advantage out of it. More than just a mention.</p>
<p dir="ltr">It is necessary that we discuss this message we
will send.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,<br>
Sander</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 Jan 2013 20:39, "Jo" <<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>>
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Hi Bert,<br>
<br>
I'll write them a message to explain all they have to
do is add an attribution to the maps in their PDF
files.<br>
<br>
Jo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/1/23 Bert Van den
Bossche <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bert.hm.vandenbossche@gmail.com" target="_blank">bert.hm.vandenbossche@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">A
little introduction: I'm Boskoyevsky and a
mapper since some years now. I follow the
discussions here from a certain distance.
Mostly, I map in the pays de Herve (land van
Herve) and the Voerstreek. I wanted to contact
you with the following problem I came across
yesterday evening:</div>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hello,</span>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Last
week I saw the program "Vlaanderen Vakantieland"
on the Flemish television channel "een". They
showed a map of a walk around the "Voerstreek".
The map they used was copied from OSM but I
could hardly see that. However, they published
the same map on their website. I downloaded the
map and saw no references to our work. I added a
hyperlink with this message (<a href="http://www.een.be/programmas/vlaanderen-vakantieland/de-mooiste-wandelroute-van-vlaanderen-vakantieland" target="_blank">http://www.een.be/programmas/vlaanderen-vakantieland/de-mooiste-wandelroute-van-vlaanderen-vakantieland</a>).</div>
<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Ofcourse
I'm happy to see that they use the map of a
region where I do a lot of mapping due to my
training runs. But I´d rather see a reference to
our work. Can someone write them since I don´t
have a lot of experience with such a letter. </div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Best
regards, Boskoyevsky.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">PS:
I checked again, ALL the maps they use are
without reference.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Salut
à tous,</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">La
semain passée j'ai vu une émission de
"Vlaanderen Vakantieland" sur la chaîne de
télévision flamande "een". Ils montraient une
carte de OSM des Fourons, et ils ont mis cette
carte sur leur site web. J'ai téléchargé cette
carte et il n'y a pas de référence à notre
travail. J'ai ajouté l'adresse web avec le
message ici (<a href="http://www.een.be/programmas/vlaanderen-vakantieland/de-mooiste-wandelroute-van-vlaanderen-vakantieland" target="_blank">http://www.een.be/programmas/vlaanderen-vakantieland/de-mooiste-wandelroute-van-vlaanderen-vakantieland</a>).</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Bien
sûr je suis content qu'ils utilisent notre carte
mais plûtot j'aimerais voir une référence.
Quelqu'un peut évriver une lettre a ces gens-là
parce que je n'ai pas beaucoup d'experience avec
ça.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Cordialement,
Boskoyevsky.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">PS:
J'ai controlé de nouveau et j'ai constaté qu'ils
utilisent plusieures cartes sans reference! </div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Goeiedag,</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Vorige
week zag ik "Vlaanderen Vakantieland" op "een".
Er werd een OSM-kaart getoond van een wandeling
in de Voerstreek en zag niet meteen een
referentie naar ons werk. Ik keek even na op de
website en zag dat deze kaart te downloaden was
bij hen. Ik zag hier evenmin een referentie naar
ons werk. Ik heb het betreffende adres in
bijlage toegevoegd (<a href="http://www.een.be/programmas/vlaanderen-vakantieland/de-mooiste-wandelroute-van-vlaanderen-vakantieland" target="_blank">http://www.een.be/programmas/vlaanderen-vakantieland/de-mooiste-wandelroute-van-vlaanderen-vakantieland</a>). </div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Ik
ben natuurlijk blij om vast te stellen dat ons
werk gebruikt wordt. En dan vooral in een regio
waar ik veel aan mapping doe gedurende mijn
trainingsloopjes. Ik zou eigenlijk liever een
referentie zien naar ons werk. Kan iemand hen
aanschrijven zodat ze een correcte referentie
gebruiken?</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">PS:
Ik heb nogmaals gecontroleerd en vastgesteld dat
ze MEERDERE plannetjes gebruiken zonder
referentie.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Beste
groet, Boskoyevsky</div>
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