<div dir="ltr">André,<div><br></div><div>sorry that I sound so negative about this dataset. But since it is incomplete and although the next version will be more complete, it will be incomplete again. That's the nature of this kind of data. We still need people that go out in the field to make additions and corrections.</div>
<div><br></div><div style>How will you cope with this ? How will you merge existing data with the imported data ? how often will you do an import ? Who decides which data is correct ? How do keep existing POI data ?</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Do you have a plan for this ? I seriously hope that you are an experienced programmer who has merged geographical databases in the past. Otherwise you might get a lot of complaints the day that your import has run.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Success with this project and hopefully you get the data soon. Until then, go out and survey, it's healthy :-)</div><div style><br></div><div style>regards</div><div style><br></div><div style>
m</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM, A.Pirard.Papou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 2013-02-19 05:30, Marc Gemis wrote :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">How up-to-date is this PICC database ?
<div>I randomly clicked on the map, and came in Orbais.</div>
<div>There I see at least 15 houses without red
rectangle. Does this mean that they are not in the database
yet ?</div>
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15 houses out of how many?<br>
Where else did you see the houses?<br>
If you find out when the houses were built, then you have some
answer to your question.<br>
What I can say is that no house of the very few I was interested in
was missing.<br>
I determined that an aerial view they show is at least 12 years old.<br>
But the houses that are missing there are on this map.<br>
Quand on vous offre un cheval, on ne regarde pas les dents.<br>
<br>
Please note that the "site" is replaced by the following one.<br>
Their new maps are expectedly more up to date.<br>
But this is a warning. Compare them.<br>
If the old maps disappeared, we would lose very much.<br>
And this is a less obvious reason why it's important to get the
permission to use them.<br>
<br>
Hoping this can help.<br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
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<h2 style="font-size:large;line-height:1.2" align="center">Le
Portail cartographique de la Région wallonne est remplacé par le
Géoportail de la Wallonie !</h2>
<p>Le Portail cartographique de la Région wallonne méritait
bien un petit coup de jeune. C’est désormais chose faite,
puisque<span> </span>son successeur est en ligne depuis peu.</p>
<p>Découvrez dès à présent le nouveau <b><u><a href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be" target="_blank">Géoportail
de la Wallonie</a></u></b>.</p>
<p>En pratique :</p>
<p><span><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span>Ne
parlez plus de "Portail cartographique de la Région wallonne"
mais de "Géoportail de la Wallonie".</p>
<p><span><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span>Remplacez
vos liens pointant vers <a href="http://cartographie.wallonie.be" target="_blank">http://cartographie.wallonie.be</a>
par
la nouvelle adresse <a href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be" target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be</a> !</p>
<p><span><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span>Si
vous ne trouvez pas sur le Géoportail de la
Wallonie un contenu que vous aviez l’habitude de trouver sur
l’ancien portail,
n’hésitez pas à <u><a href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/home/contact.html" target="_blank">nous contacter</a></u>.</p>
<p><span><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span>Le
Portail cartographique de la Région wallonne
restera encore en ligne pendant quelques mois afin de vous
assurer une
transition la plus douce possible. Toutefois certaines pages
disposent déjà d'une redirection automatique vers le nouveau
Géoportail de la Wallonie.</p>
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A.Pirard.Papou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>On 2013-02-18 10:51, Glenn Plas wrote :<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Since the meeting in Lier , I've
been getting myself into the collection of housenumbers,
I do have a few remarks / questions since starting this:
<br>
<br>
- Accuracy of the GPS on Samsung S3 is low <br>
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see 2 below.<br>
<blockquote type="cite">- Never trust Bing maps too much
concerning aerial photo's, The deepest zoomlevel seem to
be offset (where available) but also quite aged. <br>
</blockquote>
I have mentioned many times (mailing lists and e-mail to
taggers) that Bing zoom needs a per area JOSM offset
correction.<br>
Its a pity to notice careful mappers devote so much time
making maps offset because of Bing.<br>
<blockquote type="cite">- Editing takes 4 times as much
time as walking the walk <br>
</blockquote>
see 1 below (airplane speed).
<blockquote type="cite">- Many people don't even care
about hanging up their housenumbers. <br>
</blockquote>
see 1 below.
<blockquote type="cite">- Walking in the dark is a bad
idea, and watch out for people who consider their
housenumber a private property, be prepared to make a
run for it. <br>
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see 1 below.
<blockquote type="cite">- Map caching does not work in
OSMPAD <br>
- Always keep one eye for the road while scanning
housenumbers, since they seem to define the landscape
here I want to vote for the use of the tag
'barrier=dogshit', perhaps 'barrier=dogpile' for the
larger concentrations. <br>
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I saw people sticking little flags on dog poop but one
still has to watch one's steps.<br>
<a href="http://www.befr.ebay.be/sch/i.html?&LH_AvailTo=23&_sop=15&_ipg=200&_kw=dog%20poop" target="_blank">There's an impressive amount of hardware</a>
for that software, but nothing of what you need.<br>
Resist using bags and putting them in the letterboxes,
even if that raises the discussion among the concerned
people.<br>
But if you walk your own dog while prospecting numbers,
you will feel the leash loosen at every danger ;-)<br>
<blockquote type="cite">questions <br>
- Do you know of any hardware that gives better GPS
fixes and comes with the ease-of-use OSMPAD delivers on
entering numbers ? <br>
- Are there any better tools/software around for this
type of work on Android ? <br>
- What do you use? <br>
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1<br>
The <a href="http://cartocit1.wallonie.be/pw/index.jsp" target="_blank">PICC maps</a> contains very precise
building mapping with street numbers.<br>
You'll never do better than an airplane.<br>
This is one, just one, of the reasons why I say it's of
paramount importance for us to be able to use PICC.<br>
People say that the government agrees to make it available
but that they have no time to say yes.<br>
This is why I wait and I'm doing very limited house
numbering business presently.<br>
<br>
2<br>
Does anyone have an opinion or recommendation <a href="http://www.tinydeal.com/index.php?main_page=ws_search_result&is_search=1&inc_subcat=&search_in_description=3&keyword=wifi+gps&is_input=&keyword=wifi+gps&cPath=&categories_id=54&disp_order=3" target="_blank">about such cheap devices</a>? (there
are other similar shops)<br>
Usually, CN stuff is of fair quality but minimally
documented and supported (e.g. no "MP4" games).<br>
But that's different for Android, isn't it?<br>
>22€ means a risk of paying taxes, but, according to
Test-Achats, it looks like it's only VAT.<br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
<br>
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