When I started looking more thoroughly at cycle node networks a few years ago, I noticed other people in Belgium and The Netherlands had already added route relations to network relations, so I proceeded to continue that practice. I must admit I never consulted nor updated the wiki. When walking node networks started to mushroom, we all continued in the same vein.<br>
<br>Then I read somewhere about type=collection relation and collected all Belgian network cycle node relations together in one of those. I don't think this ever became 'official' either.<br><br>Before we had Overpass API, this was the most convenient way to download all of them in a few relatively simple steps in JOSM.<br>
<br>Feel free to update the wiki or to suggest Lonvia to make use of this information in their renderings.<br><br>Jo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/12 A.Pirard.Papou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div>On 2013-02-21 07:08, Jo wrote :<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">That was great news indeed, and great
follow-up indeed, thanks.<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> But if we <a href="http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=12&lat=50.52357&lon=5.63117" target="_blank">click here</a>, look at the map and then
click on <b>Routes</b>. and on some routes.<br>
<a href="http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=11&lat=50.22721&lon=5.35737" target="_blank">And then click here</a>, and do the same
again<br>
Doesn't it seem that these organizers deserve better thanks
and advertising?<br>
<a href="http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=11&lat=50.92581&lon=4.98478&route=1" target="_blank">Same here and around</a> in many places,
BTW.<br>
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The numbered node networks are networks of routes. Very many
relatively short routes. The information you seem to be
looking for can be found at the network level. It is the same
for all the routes which belong to the same network, so it
doesn't make a lot of sense to repeat it in each and every
route relation.<br>
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It would be a lot better that Lonvia gets this information
from the network relation and shows that, instead of burdening
the OSM DB with the same string about 15000 times.<br>
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My provider's anti-spam filtering decided I should not receive your
e-mail :-( You're perfectly right and that makes the most stupid
article I ever read, <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories" title="Relations/Relations are not Categories" target="_blank"><span>Relations</span> are not <span>Categories</span></a>, perfectly wrong.<br>
But the network information is impossible to find. Click in route
in Lonvia and get this in the browser<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2649063" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2649063</a>
and then click <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2567359" target="_blank">Pays
de Famenne à vélo</a> in it.<br>
Not to be expected from any user and I hope you will warn Lonvia
indeed.<br>
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But regarding type=network, I see that mentioned nowhere in the
wiki. <br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Cycle_Routes" target="_blank">WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Cycle_Routes</a>
or anywhere.<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Network" target="_blank">wiki/Relations/Proposed/Network</a>
says to be proposing tags but I see no tags it proposes.<br>
Not to be expected from the mapper either if he doesn't find what he
must do.<br>
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Now, should I add my hiking routes to a network and which and how?<br>
I was scolded in the past for doing the same as what I saw being
done (boundaries) and I promised to myself that I won't do anything
more that's not the wiki.<br>
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BTW of 15000 times: have you seen this on almost every French <b>node</b>?<br>
<b>source</b>: cadastre-dgi-fr source : Direction Générale des
Impôts - Cadastre. Mise à jour : 2012<br>
as it a way could have a different source as its nodes.<br>
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Cheers, <br>
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