<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div style>I think we all know that this import is supported by our local community here in Belgium.</div><div style><br></div><div style>What I know about imports:</div><div style><br></div>
<div style>- Always use separate accounts</div><div style>- Always announce on the imports list</div><div style><br></div><div style>oh, and maybe that wiki page should change then? I think it needs to be merged with this one:</div>
<div style><br></div><div style><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>As i understand the Urbis import is not really mechanical editing?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>Best regards,<br><br>Ben Abelshausen<br><a href="mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ben.abelshausen@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/xivk" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/xivk</a><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Here we go again. I've been reading this page, when I was checking out what was needed for adding the UrbIS data:<br>
<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy</a><br>
<br></div>Where I found the following:<br><div><h3> <span> Execute </span></h3>
<p>We recommend setting up a special account for mechanical edits but
you may use your existing account. Any account used to perform
mechanical edits must have agreed to the new Contributor Terms. <br></p><p><br></p><p>I can't help it that information on the wiki is in several places. At first I actually added this bot=yes flag to my changesets.</p>
<p><br></p><p>Anyway, I even discussed this with Frederik Ramm. He was very surprised, but he didn't change the page, nor did he notify Paul Norman and Co. The page has not been changed since then.</p><p>Anyhow, I did what needed to be done to comply with that page, maybe it should link to all other pages, so people contemplating to do some sort of import know which hoops need to be jumped through.</p>
<p><br></p><p>As far as the integration goes, I tried to learn from what happened in France. Correct integration with already existing data and such. We don't have blocks of houses with no streets in between. Discussion with the local community has taken place. Not a single soul objected to the fact that we would soon have all address data for Brussels capital region into the database. In fact, I think that everybody is hoping that the rest of Belgium will follow suit in the foreseeable future. PNorman shouldn't despair, it's unlikely that this will happen the first 10-15 years... Brussels information services is quite a pioneer to release their data under a free license.</p>
<p>We've been at it for several months now, how come it's only being noticed at this point in time? Did our changesets grow bigger, or is it only when the information density becomes higher that flags are raised?<br>
</p><p>Kind regards,</p><p><br></p><p>Jo<br>
</p></div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/16 Benoit Leseul <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:benoit.leseul@gmail.com" target="_blank">benoit.leseul@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
FYI, I received the following message from pnorman after doing an<br>
Urbis import today. You may want to refrain doing this until the<br>
situation is clarified.<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
I noticed you conducting an import with<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17361862" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17361862</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17360583" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17360583</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16596677" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16596677</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16572616" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16572616</a><br>
<br>
The import guidelines require that imports be done from a dedicated<br>
account, after consultation with the local community and imports@ and<br>
be documented on the wiki. This was not done here.<br>
<br>
I can find no record of consultation with the imports@ mailing list.<br>
Where is it?<br>
<br>
You need to use a dedicated account<br>
<br>
To contact me you can send a message or email the data working group.<br>
<br>
Paul Norman<br>
for the Data Working Group<br>
<br>
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