<div dir="ltr">I suggest we choose Joomla to make this site. We have a lot of free extensions for that system and the most important, we can have a lot of "super users" who can work on the site (and publishers and so on).<div>
<br><div>Free hosting, I think the most important is to have a Joomla-friendly webhoster ( take please a look at <a href="http://ivoweb.be">ivoweb.be</a> ), My total costs are 23,60 euro for a whole year ;-).</div><div><br>
</div><div>Multilangual : there are a lot of extensions in joomla for that</div><div><br></div><div>I can make the website you want. </div><div><br></div><div>ivodeb and ivoweb are the same persons ;-)<br><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/10 Dennis Bollyn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dennis@gyrbo.be" target="_blank">dennis@gyrbo.be</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div>While all the suggestions are nice, I think we're mostly looking for a company to sponsor OSM (eg. giving the hosting for free).<br><br></div>I don't personally know the owner of <a href="http://openstreetmap.be" target="_blank">openstreetmap.be</a>, I only recalled a conversations from the mailing list where it was stated that the owner was "OSM friendly). Since I am unable to be very involved in the creation of this new website, I would prefer if someone else served as the point of contact. Contact details can easily be found via WHOIS/<a href="http://dns.be" target="_blank">dns.be</a>.<br>
<br></div>Best regards,<br><br>Dennis<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Teddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eddy@swing.be" target="_blank">eddy@swing.be</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello everybody,</div>
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Personally I use <a href="http://www.icdsoft.com" target="_blank">www.icdsoft.com</a> to store my websites since more than 10 year.</div><div>
For 72$/year (48$/year if renewal) in economic !</div>
<div>It depends the volumes of storage and transfert (the business formule : 10$/m and 8$/m if renewal).</div><div>
</div><div>There are new servers in Bulgaria for 4.6€/m but I don't yet use it (the support service is the same).</div><div>
<a href="http://www.icdsoft.com/hosting/shared/bulgaria" target="_blank">http://www.icdsoft.com/hosting/shared/bulgaria</a></div><div> </div>
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Economic and very competent support. T<span>hey answer questions</span> <span>in a few</span> <span>minutes, 24/24h 7/7d !</span></div><div><span><span>I</span> <span>am very very</span> <span>satisfied with the</span> <span>service and support !!!</span></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div><div><span>King regards.</span></div>
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<span><em>__Eddy__</em></span></div><div><span></span> </div><div>
<span></span> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/10 Glenn Plas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glenn@byte-consult.be" target="_blank">glenn@byte-consult.be</a>></span><br>
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<div>Thanks. Could you contact him to ask ?<br>
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I propose to start considering to setup a Belgian OSM site
in Dutch, French, English and German if we have enough
people to translate in German. <br>
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Would Drupal be appropriate to setup such a multilingual
site ? Do anyone of us know Drupal (or any other easy and
well know tool that would do the job) or mediawiki ?<br>
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<div>What would be the hardware we need ? (CPUs, RAM, hard
disk)</div>
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It would totaly depend on what you mean by Belgian OSM site. <br>
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I would personally not use drupal for such a site but use a
framework (staying in the PHP realm here) like Laravel4 or
Symphony2. But that also depends on what I have in mind for such
a site. I do think Drupal and wordpress is overkill, I use
wordpress for my personal blog just because I'm a developper , so by
definition I'm lazy and don't want to spend too much time.
Drupal/Wordpress and the like are pretty much OK for a blog oriented
site. <br>
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You could run this from a 20$ per month linode (see
<a href="https://www.linode.com/" target="_blank">https://www.linode.com/</a> ). In fact, using nginx as a webserver,
mariaDB instead of mysqlDB and spending a good chunk of time tuning
it, you can run several sites easily. I have like 10 of them on it
and also a piwik instance (~= opensource version of what google
analytics does). So another 10 sites use it to store visitor data
in in (just like analytics do it). I do have some caching going on
, good practise anyway as most of the files are just staticly served
but come from <br>
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If your goal is to start building up database, do tileserving or
create nominatim DB's, the specs go up a lot. Then you would arrive
in the price for a cloud server range of a co-located server, cloud
servers aren't suited either for heavy indexing, a solution for
that would be to use a something like a EBS device (elastic block
store - see <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ebs" target="_blank">http://aws.amazon.com/ebs</a> ) and is expensive.<br>
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On the other hand, if you want a true 'beast' of a server, I would
recommend (of course) linux + the Revodrive 3 x2 (personally I would
get 2 of those and stripe them over the PCI bus) see
<a href="http://tweakers.net/serie/1908/revodrive-x2/" target="_blank">http://tweakers.net/serie/1908/revodrive-x2/</a><br>
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That drive has insane specs compaired to regular SATA SSD's. Check
out <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2pgsql/benchmarks" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2pgsql/benchmarks</a> there
is one that has numbers from a revodrive from the past, and you'll
see why I would use that one. The performance is huge compaired to
the price range.<br>
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I would also not pay too much attention to CPU's. Most of them will
be able to server thousands of sites in the webserver scenario.
Given the huge datasets in the latter case, I would totally spend
all my money on RAM, the more the better as it speeds up postgreSQL
and indexing exponentially.<br>
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So, question back: What are you planning to do with the site ?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Glenn<br>
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