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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-09-16 11:52, Glenn Plas wrote :<br>
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If you want to be serious about this then a new topic should be
initiated by sending a new mail instead of a reply with a new
subject. Every decent mailclient out there -usually- does not use
the subject to 'thread' mails. instead it uses certain fields in
the mail headers. I noticed that mail-man (the mailing list
handler of THIS list) does not seem to add those headers (in fact,
they seem to be removed from outgoing mails, I cannot find those
fields like below).<br>
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You're right, my main gripe is against the mailing list software
mailman itself because it does not allow HTML. It does archive a
HTML version of the archive but when you look at it on the server
you see HTML code. <br>
By "allow HTML", I mean "simple HTML": text style, lists, tables
etc, not eccentric showy stuff.<br>
I've sent an e-mail to mailman about this and they replied <br>
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<li>that we, technical people, do not need HTML because we don't
use it much.<br>
They obviously did not look at, for example, <br>
</li>
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<li>the <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/52411">OSM
Web pages</a> in which the tags and other data are in tables
that we can copy&paste to an e-mail, <br>
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<li>nor at the plentiful number of <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features">links
in Wiki Web pages</a> or other references: decency requests
to use them in e-mail too so that the reader finds the
information with a click instead of a Google search</li>
<li>nor simply this way to make a long phrase understandable</li>
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<li>that the mailman's <b>default configuration</b> screens out
the HTML for security reasons<br>
This is weird, because, <br>
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<li>if I'm not mistaken, the recipients receive the full HTML
message anyway, only the archive is screened out and there's a
second full HTML copy that the obstinate user can manage to
display anyway</li>
<li>as said above, only dangerous HTML needs to be filtered out
and there must be code out there to plug in to do the
filtering so that the simple, innocuous HTML remains</li>
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<p>Because of all that, what I have personally done is subscribing a
Google account to all my mailing lists and using filters on it to
archive each mailing list into its own respective folder. When I
need to search my archives, I simply open the wanted folder in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol">IMAP</a>
mode <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol"></a>
with <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/">Thunderbird</a>.
Should I need to reply, I, well, click Reply, which I don't know
how to do with mailman.<br>
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<p>I wish mailman were doing that filtering and IMAP service!<br>
I would have shared my folders with you if Google had allowed
passwordless R/O access to them.<br>
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<p>Now, more closely related to threading, Thunderbird must be an
extra decent program: it can display by subject <b>or</b> by
thread. Does it use a special algorithm? In a quick overview, I
can't find a hitch in the threading in OSM-talk-be. That is, not a
message with a subject different that the thread it's in.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
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