<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the update Johan. Yesterday I got a reply from Jarno (from Kreatos). He's going to look at all information I gave him and will keep me posted. Do I need to inform him about the LAT/LON problem and the ODbL license ?<div>
<br></div><div>m<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Johan C <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osmned@gmail.com" target="_blank">osmned@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Marc<div><br></div><div>I talked about this yesterday evening on a meeting of the Future Group. The good thing: this is definitely on the list of stuff which needs to be worked upon. The bad thing: it's not a simple thing to solve. One of the major problems is that address data is missing on a large scale in OSM. Supposedly companies will have addresses of their businesses. Question is: how to match the addresses to LAT/LON in an ODbL compatible way? </div>
<div><br></div><div>However, The Netherlands, Flanders and Bruxelles may serve as an test bed for this, since address data is already available there. I'll come back to it later. If there are other initiatives on this matter, than these should definitely proceed.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers, Johan</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/21 Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div><div>On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Johan C <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osmned@gmail.com" target="_blank">osmned@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>On your question Marc to contact companies: I have mixed experiences in the past. Some companies (like McDonalds) were not interested in OpenStreetMap. A situation that should change, since there are just four global players in geodata, OSM being one of them. Our product is not worse than Google places. probably better, because we're in open data. I like your idear, maybe we can join forces for the Benelux. We could start having a platform for entry of business users in OSM, showing them the advantages of using OSM. For instance, if we present the number of OSM app downloads (combined 30 million or so), businesses might gain interest. Let me know if you/others are interested.<div>
<br></div><div>Cheers, Johan<br><br>Op vrijdag 20 september 2013 schreef Marc Gemis (<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>):<div><div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I welcomed a new user, expecting that it was related to the Kreatos hairdressers company:<div><br></div><div>their reply:</div><div><br></div><div><div>Dank voor de informatie. </div><div>Weet u een manier om (meerdere) nodes (in één keer) te uploaden naar OpenStreetMap? Bij Google is dit via Google Places, met een XLS of XML file. </div>
<div>Heb hiervoor gezocht op de website van OpenStreetMap, maar ik raak er niet meteen wijs uit? </div><div>De informatie zou uit en MySQL database komen, dus een api met rechtstreekse import/sync mogelijkheid hiervoor zou natuurlijk nog beter zijn…</div>
<div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>How do I proceed ? Show them the OSM Api v0.6 ? + policy page ? Josm upload ? Ask them the file and do the upload myself + verification of individual points ?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I was also wondering this week whether we could contact companies to ask them to share their shops or fuel stations. What do you think about that ?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards</div>
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<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hallo Johan,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I'm wiling to send out such emails to companies in Belgium, but I'm not so good in writing those letters. It takes me more time than I'm willing to spend to get it right. But if someone can come up with a good template, I can do the "import" later.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I also think that we need a page that describes how companies can easily add their POIs. This guy (from Kreatos) did not find a page on the wiki with some API to do so. It would be nice to have some page that describes the different methods (e.g. JOSM + OpenData, the osm file generation described in this thread, the import procedure, etc. ) Furthermore the page should list some Overpass examples on how they can retrieve their shops again. And maybe a link to leaflet, <a href="http://umap.openstreetmap.fr" target="_blank">umap.openstreetmap.fr</a> and <a href="http://switch2osm.org" target="_blank">switch2osm.org</a> so they know how to visualize their data. I provided some of this information in my response to him. I just thought of leaftlet/umap this morning.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">So I have some ideas, but lack to time to write the proper letters and documentation. Maybe you can add this to the dreams for OSM ?</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">regards</div><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">m</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></font></span></div>
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