<div dir="ltr">I agree with that, address:street is easily to change or view at all apps for smartphones or tablets too. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/15 Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Got this answer from lonvia on <a href="http://help.osm.org" target="_blank">help.osm.org</a><div><br></div>
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You've mapped it correctly, Nominatim is just not very good at updating associatedStreet relations. It's a <a href="https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4619" style="color:rgb(48,96,168);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">known bug</a>.</p>
<p style="line-height:18px;max-width:700px;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(235,255,230);font-family:sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 13px;padding:0px;border:medium none">Here is what happened: you've originally put the house into <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2594673" style="color:rgb(48,96,168);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">this associatedStreet relation</a> which does contain the 'Pierstraat - Matenstraat' street. Nominatim simply uses the first street it finds in such a relation for the name an ignores all tags on the relation itself, so that is where the name comes from. Later you have moved the house to the new relation and that move was not caught by Nominatim's update process. The houses will only be updated when they are changed themselves again.</p>
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<br></p><p style="line-height:18px;max-width:700px;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(235,255,230);font-family:sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 13px;padding:0px;border:medium none">also interesting is this quote from lonvia in the above mentioned bug:</p>
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Nominatim would be perfectly happy if you added only addr:street tags and got rid of the associatedStreet relations. The relations mostly don't carry any additional information and are a bit of a pain to handle. addr:street is much better supported.</p>
</div><div><br></div><div>So I wonder more and more whether we should add those theoretically nice associatedStreet relations....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">the help thread is here: <a href="https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/28075/how-to-correctly-map-a-pois-address" target="_blank">https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/28075/how-to-correctly-map-a-pois-address</a><div>
<br></div><div>seems that Nominatim was not updated after the associatedStreet-relation update</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm reading <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Development_overview" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Development_overview</a> again, especially the section on "Building indexing"<div>
<div><br></div><div>Buildings, houses and other lower than street level features (i.e., bus stops, phone boxes, etc.) are indexed by relating them to their most appropriate nearby street.</div><div>The street is calculated as:</div>
<div>1. The street member of an associatedStreet relation</div><div>2. If the node is part of a way:</div><div>2.1 If this way is street level, than that street</div><div>2.2 The street member of an associatedStreet relation that this way is in</div>
<div>2.3 A street way with 50/100 meters and parallel with the way we are in</div><div>3. A nearby street with the name given in addr:street of the feature we are in or the feature we are part of</div><div>4. The nearest street (up to 3 miles)</div>
<div>5. Not linked</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It seems that it takes one of the streets from the associatedStreet relation to work with. The segment should be long enough (longer than 50-100 m ?). It then works with this street. It simply ignores the tags on the associatedStreet. This would make the relation useless to solve any issue regarding name and postcode for streets that are the border between 2 villages.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The 2 names in the standard tag are "required", otherwise many QA-tools will complain name:left/right is not recognized, or are they ? (yeah I know do not tag for ... :-) )</div>
<div>You can't use a semi-colon in the name (to indicate multiple names) otherwise another bunch of QA-tools complain that there are 2 names on a "highway".</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, the postcode is also wrong in my example. It should be 2840.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It has time, Glenn, it's wrong for several weeks now, so a day more or less does not matter.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>m</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Ben Abelshausen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ben.abelshausen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Glenn Plas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glenn@byte-consult.be" target="_blank">glenn@byte-consult.be</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>If it can wait I'll check this evening with full attention.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>That's up to marc. But I guess he would like to see his work be made into something useful. :-)<div><br><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>Best regards,<br>
<br>Ben Abelshausen<br>
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