<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>The areas I'm working with are very large (for the bus routes). Now the autosaves take 15-20 seconds (on SSD). That will change when all the adresses will have been added. But maybe it will change anyway. AS relations or not. I'll find a solution, no problem.<br>
<br></div>The problem is rather that when all the addresses in say Europe will have been added and we're not careful with diskspace, it will have become impossible for people like you and me to work with all that data as a whole.<br>
<br></div>But, as I said, I was going to rest my case.<br><br></div>Jo<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/18 Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm using autosave as well, don't see the problems that you encounter. Perhaps you have much larger changesets ? :-) Does autosave write everything ? Or only the things that are changed ? Just curious to pinpoint the exact cause of the long autosaves you encounter.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>m</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I'll rest my case for the associatedStreet relation. I was indeed talking about mobile editors like Vespucci or iLoE, not something like OsmAND, which does preprocess the data.<br>
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I won't stop adding them myself every once in a while, but that won't change much, as adresses are not what I'm concentrating on, even though they are, of course, important.<br><br></div>To be able to keep things workable once all those adresses will be added, I'll find a way to purge them from the dataset locally after each download... Can't live without autosave, but it's annoying it interrupts the workflow for longer and longer amounts of time.<br>
<br></div><div>My preference is to do things in an efficient way, but we don't do that for other things either. <br></div><div><br></div>Jo<br><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/11/18 Ben Abelshausen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ben.abelshausen@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Processing addresses in my opinion has to be smart enough to handle all this. When I process OSM-data for mobile devices everything is removed that is not useful and I would hope other software is also smart enough to keep only the data it needs. I don't know of any mobile app that consumes OSM-data in it's raw form, except maybe some of the mobile editors.<br>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Mostly the arguments in favor of the associatedStreet relation are related to technology, the arguments against are the fact that OSM is more than a collection of hackers trying to build a map. These technology arguments are things that can be solved either way and I think we have enough people that can do this kind of stuff.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The thing we really need are more mappers and I don't think OSM should become the kind of project where you would have to be an 'expert' to add a simple address to the database.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>Best regards,<br><br>Ben Abelshausen</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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