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Hi,<br>
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Ben, Pieter,<br>
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I do not have any opposition as joining OKFN and OSM opinion in one
document. I thought it was more strategic to have two voices, but I
am not sure this reasoning match with reality. <br>
<br>
I propose to write differently the chapter about "open source" in a
way which is more pragmatic. I might do this at the beginning of the
week.<br>
<br>
OK ? <br>
<br>
Or I delete this chapter completely ?<br>
<br>
@Jo: the permission to trace from WMS is included in our request to
open data globally. I also have contacts which focus more on web
services. But I will mention the persmissions of Brussels and
Flanders (the advance of wallonie and brussels is a quite good
arguments with our politics :-) ).<br>
<br>
Julien<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/03/14 12:04, Jo a écrit :<br>
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<div>Hi Julien,<br>
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You mention we have permission to trace from Bing. In the mean
time we have better imagery (higher resolution, more recent)
in Flanders and Brussels provided by AGIV, which we are also
allowed to trace. We also have permission to, if I understood
correctly, to use their WMS (or is that CRAB) to trace/verify
street names and house numbers.<br>
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Maybe the Region Wallonne can do one better by allowing us to
trace/reuse building outlines :-) like in Brussels Region.<br>
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<div>Open data and Open source are two orthogonal subjects, one
can proces opendata with closed source software or closed data
with open source software. We have a preference for software
under free licenses, but everybody should be able/allowed to
use whatever software they please and can afford as long as
they comply with the licenses.<br>
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<div>Jo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-15 11:53 GMT+01:00 Ben
Abelshausen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>First of all Julien: thanks for all your hard work
and enthusiasm in taking on this task! :-)<br>
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I think it is pretty obvious that we would want to
promote usage of open-source as well but I think this is
something that is not the task of our community.<br>
<br>
We can recommend using open-source tools but the
argument against opening data cannot ever be 'open-data
is not possible because then we would have to use
open-source software'. I think we should be very very
clear that these two are different. An excel document
with nice juicy open-data is still a good thing.<br>
<br>
But we can still recommend using open-source tools, we
just have to be careful about how this is done in this
document.<br>
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<div>Also: We should be careful about positioning the OSM
project in Belgium as a project that wants to
collect/incorporate open-data sets. We are about
collecting data in the form of mapping the world, not
about collecting open-geo-data sets. That was an
argument for me to join everything with OKFN into one
document.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Ben Abelshausen</div>
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