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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL-BE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Er werd toen gesuggereerd dat programmeurs mogelijkheden genoeg hebben om vast te stellen dat de weg ‘doodloopt’ (voor bepaalde voertuigen)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#1F497D'>Guy Vanvuchelen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com] <br><b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag 4 april 2014 9:37<br><b>Aan:</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>jouw gebruik is inderdaad wat ze nu op de Duitse wiki beschrijven. De Engelse zou nog beschrijven dat het ook op wegen kan.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Guy Vanvuchelen <<a href="mailto:guy.vanvuchelen@gmail.com" target="_blank">guy.vanvuchelen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Enkele maanden geleden is dit onderwerp ook op het forum verschenen. Toen had ik begrepen dat het enkel op nodes mocht.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sindsdien gebruik ik het om aan te duiden dat twee wegen die kort bij mekaar eindigen maar gescheiden zijn door een gracht, heuvel, bomenrij, enz. niet op mekaar aansluiten. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#1F497D'>Guy Vanvuchelen</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Marc Gemis [mailto:<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag 4 april 2014 8:51<br><b>Aan:</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>From the tagging mailing list and the German mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The conclusion is that noexit should only be used on nodes and in case there is no way for any road user to continue. So it's not used when there is a no-exit sign with a cyclist/pedestrian on top<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If I recall correctly, this is different from what was discussed on this mailing list (tag can be placed on ways as well).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Op de Duitse en tagging mailing lists werd er gediscussieerd over noexit. Het zou enkel mogen gebruikt worden op nodes en wanneer geen enkele weggebruiker verder kan. Dus niet bij een doodlopende straat met daarboven een fietser/voetganger.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ik denk dat dit anders is dan wat vroeger op deze lijst geschreven is (mag ook op wegen).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>m<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Florian Schäfer</b> <<a href="mailto:florian@schaeferban.de" target="_blank">florian@schaeferban.de</a>><br>Date: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:50 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?<br>To: <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><br><br>Hello,<br><br>Am 03.04.2014 21:22, schrieb SomeoneElse:<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>fly wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Is noexit=yes useful on ways ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Asking a slightly broader question, in what situations is "noexit=yes" useful at all, except as a cue to subsequent mappers in the very rare situation that one way ends very close to another one and there's absolutely nothing (not a wall, footpath, anything) between them?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In the diskussion on the German ML, some users pointed out, that it is rendered on some (esp. outdoor-)maps to indicate, that the way really ends. Because otherwise one could think that the mapper who added this way has just entered the first part of the way and forgot to tag fixme=continue or something similar.<br>And obviously there is the advantage for QA-tools to filter out false-positive unconnected-way-errors.<br><br>By the way: I am the user who started the discussion on talk-de. And my intention was to define the usage of the tag more precisely and to point out, that there are currently situations, where this tag is used but where it makes no sense.<br>For example it was used at entrances of buildings, because the way ends there of course (I oppose this usage). And the discussion showed, that it makes no sense there, because some people can always enter an entrance, so is not a deadend.<br>Another conclusion from the discussion was, that noexit=yes should only be used where no person can travel further.<br><br>For a more complete overview over the conclusions, see the german Wiki-page [1] (Google translate: [2]), which I've updated today with the insights from the discussion.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Florian<br><br>[1]: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:noexit" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:noexit</a><br>[2]: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FDE%3AKey%3Anoexit&edit-text=&act=url" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FDE%3AKey%3Anoexit&edit-text=&act=url</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-be mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>