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Hi,<br>
<br>
good news from the walloon front : the strategic plan for geomatica
was approved, and, following those who may read it, our request sent
with OKFN were heard ! <br>
<br>
The minister Henry asked to the SPW (his administration) to set up
all data from SPW as Open Data; they received a "green light" to do
that. Politically, it seems to me something really new.<br>
<br>
Today and yesterday, there were meeting about the implementation of
the plan. I could not go there (sorry, I am quite busy at the
moment). <br>
<br>
I think we should get in contact with the next governement, in a few
days (I hope we won't have to make new contacts again...)<br>
<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 25/03/14 17:34, Julien Fastré a
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Hi,<br>
<br>
We sent our opinion yesterday (thanks to Philippe).<br>
<br>
You may read the final document here :
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgian_OSM_contributor_Opinion_to_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_geomatique_wallonne.pdf">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgian_OSM_contributor_Opinion_to_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_geomatique_wallonne.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Julien<br>
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(I do not understand why my links are transformed into pictures...
I use the [[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="File:xyz.pdf">File:xyz.pdf</a>]]
but this does not appears as a <a > tag...<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 23/03/14 22:41, Julien Fastré a
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Hi,<br>
<br>
With the great help of Philippe Duchesnes, we wrote a single an
common review of the PSGW.<br>
<br>
Could you give us some comments before we send this ? Our
deadline is very short (this monday, end afternoon - the initial
text was submitted to our wiki).<br>
<br>
The RC text : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGZZndpoLEgJuT5fvVv6IkjaLKy6D43l5CUnTBo4z4g/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGZZndpoLEgJuT5fvVv6IkjaLKy6D43l5CUnTBo4z4g/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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The PSGW itself : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/7/7b/Projet_de_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_g%C3%A9omatique_pour_la_Wallonie_%28Belgique%29.pdf">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/7/7b/Projet_de_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_g%C3%A9omatique_pour_la_Wallonie_%28Belgique%29.pdf</a><br>
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Thanks,<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Ben, Pieter,<br>
<br>
I do not have any opposition as joining OKFN and OSM opinion
in one document. I thought it was more strategic to have two
voices, but I am not sure this reasoning match with reality. <br>
<br>
I propose to write differently the chapter about "open source"
in a way which is more pragmatic. I might do this at the
beginning of the week.<br>
<br>
OK ? <br>
<br>
Or I delete this chapter completely ?<br>
<br>
@Jo: the permission to trace from WMS is included in our
request to open data globally. I also have contacts which
focus more on web services. But I will mention the
persmissions of Brussels and Flanders (the advance of wallonie
and brussels is a quite good arguments with our politics :-)
).<br>
<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/03/14 12:04, Jo a écrit :<br>
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<div>Hi Julien,<br>
<br>
You mention we have permission to trace from Bing. In
the mean time we have better imagery (higher resolution,
more recent) in Flanders and Brussels provided by AGIV,
which we are also allowed to trace. We also have
permission to, if I understood correctly, to use their
WMS (or is that CRAB) to trace/verify street names and
house numbers.<br>
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Maybe the Region Wallonne can do one better by allowing us
to trace/reuse building outlines :-) like in Brussels
Region.<br>
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<div>Open data and Open source are two orthogonal
subjects, one can proces opendata with closed source
software or closed data with open source software. We
have a preference for software under free licenses, but
everybody should be able/allowed to use whatever
software they please and can afford as long as they
comply with the licenses.<br>
<br>
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<div>Jo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-15 11:53 GMT+01:00 Ben
Abelshausen <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.com"
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<div>First of all Julien: thanks for all your hard
work and enthusiasm in taking on this task! :-)<br>
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<div><br>
I think it is pretty obvious that we would want to
promote usage of open-source as well but I think
this is something that is not the task of our
community.<br>
<br>
We can recommend using open-source tools but the
argument against opening data cannot ever be
'open-data is not possible because then we would
have to use open-source software'. I think we
should be very very clear that these two are
different. An excel document with nice juicy
open-data is still a good thing.<br>
<br>
But we can still recommend using open-source
tools, we just have to be careful about how this
is done in this document.<br>
<br>
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<div>Also: We should be careful about positioning
the OSM project in Belgium as a project that wants
to collect/incorporate open-data sets. We are
about collecting data in the form of mapping the
world, not about collecting open-geo-data sets.
That was an argument for me to join everything
with OKFN into one document.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Ben Abelshausen</div>
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