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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    I am really concerned with having the SPW service working. Simply, I
    am not interesting in repeating or hearing 10 times or more that
    things does not work as they should.<br>
    <br>
    I am in contact with people working at SPW, about OSM topics or
    other ones. Some people, there, do their best with the time, money,
    structure and hierarchy they have. Really, some people there do an
    impressive work. The new "plan stratégique de la géomatique
    wallonne" is one of the results of their work, with our help /
    advice and, so light it might appears, I celebrate that.<br>
    <br>
    We do agree with Champs Libres to install a WMS service with TEC
    information (bus lines & stops). I had a problem to do that: we
    do have reached our quota of IPv4 addresses on our servers and we
    would do it with IPv6-only (tunnels IPv4->Ipv6 with sixxs or
    something else should work and assure the connectivity). <br>
    <br>
    But, technically, our hosting provider is a bit boring and will only
    see flat network, we have to configure our servers on a different
    way... We are working on it.<br>
    <br>
    Julien<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 10/05/14 19:08, Jo a écrit :<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAJ6DwMDmv1pxL31g2-DnoZ3FcRgCn4EBtvGTDs_8eRdnfmRp+A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
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        <div>
          <div>I'm afraid we'll have to be patient. Things are moving in
            the right direction. So that's a plus. They're moving
            slowly, which may be seen a as a minus, but we have time. If
            you'd like to bus stops, there are still around 4000 in
            Flanders which need to be added.<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          It involves looking up the zone information and checking the
          position on AGIV imagery.<br>
          <br>
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        You can find the latest version of the converted data here:<br>
        <div><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/jv675c51de33egi/DL.osm.zip">https://www.dropbox.com/s/jv675c51de33egi/DL.osm.zip</a><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>To select stops for a given line, you can use the following
          regular expression search in JOSM:<br>
          <br>
          route_ref="(^|.+;)26(;.+|$)" inview odbl=new<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>I tagged all the stops which are not in OSM yet with
          odbl=new. This has nothing to do with odbl, but rather uses
          the side effect of JOSM stripping that tag upon upload.<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>another way to search is <br>
          <br>
          route_ref: inview odbl=new<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>but the former version has the advantage it's easier to
          look up the zones at <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.delijn.be/aanpassingen">www.delijn.be/aanpassingen</a><br>
          <br>
          for that specific line. (I asked De Lijn explicitely and we
          have permission to use those PDFs, it won't get us in
          trouble). Oddly it's not possible to give us a file with the
          zone information for each stop directly. It's not readily
          available, although I can't imagine they don't have it.<br>
          <br>
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        <div>As far as the OSM PT rendering goes, I added a few bus
          lines in Walloon Brabant (connections out of Leuven and
          Brussels) and they do show up. Unfortunately all bus lines are
          in red, so it's not very useful to differentiate between the
          lines visually.<br>
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        <div>Polyglot<br>
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        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-10 18:48 GMT+02:00 André Pirard
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                <div>On 2014-05-03 02:08, André Pirard wrote :<br>
                </div>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div>Hi,
                  <div class=""><br>
                    <br>
                    No reply to my former e-mail. Are the bugs I
                    discover forwarded to SPW?<br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              No.  It looks like I am the only person interested in the
              correct working of SPW data.<br>
              So, I wrote a personal complaint to the SPW, quoted below.<br>
              I make a long description of the problems, in short: it
              does not work.<br>
              The answer was, as short as possible: we know it doesn't
              work.<br>
              And, as I explained before, it may last 5 years.<br>
              And the TEC does not respond to error reports in their
              data.<br>
              There seems to be no line numbers in the data maps,
              neither Lignes nor Poteaux.<br>
              Or does anyone know?<br>
              The OSM.org Transport Map layer does not show our bus
              lines.<br>
              They could have been a good substitute of Google Maps,
              wouldn't they?<br>
              Etc.<br>
              <br>
              I made more manageable <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/TEC/"
                target="_blank">split copies of my OSM files here</a>:<br>
              TEC_2014_04_Poteaux_?.osm.bz2 with ?=Province or Charleroi
              and luXemburg.<br>
              <br>
              I made an Imagery picture for JOSM <a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.infotec.be/Medeplacer/Plandur%C3%A9seau.aspx"
                target="_blank">from here</a>.  It was very queer to try
              to calibrate it.<br>
              Either the map is Middle-Aged or they distorted it,
              especially the Meuse course at Jemeppe.<br>
              But Julien will probably pop up and say that we cannot
              copy that data.<br>
              And so, where did the bus stop name with the same mistake
              as TEC's come from?<br>
              And the line numbers and the rest?<br>
              <br>
              Well, in answer to Julien's "let's start": I tried, but
              I'm afraid I must stop.<br>
              Especially talking alone.<br>
              Maybe adding a few bus lines after Champs Libres'
              comparison data by the end of May.<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              <br>
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                    <td>André.</td>
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                <div class="h5"> <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div> In addition to the 403 error reported below, I
                      can see no data <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/walonmap/#ADU=http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer"
                        target="_blank">in the online browser</a>.<br>
                      A wheel spins and turns to a red cross after a
                      timeout.  No bus lines.<br>
                      Has anybody seen this this data yet?  I would like
                      to know if the lines are numbered.<br>
                      Also,  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?&search-text=TEC"
                        target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?&search-text=TEC</a> 
                      returns no selection.<br>
                      <br>
                      As there will probably never be a (correctly
                      working) TEC WMS server for JOSM...<br>
                      Not even a reply to my suggestions.<br>
                      <br>
                      I stored a <b>TEC_2014_04.gpx</b> @ <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Papou/traces/1698225"
                        target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Papou/traces/1698225</a><br>
                      It can be used as a JOSM layer to display the TEC
                      data at the same time as the OSM map.  <br>
                      Please rename it back to original filename; 
                      Customize it e.g. yellow width 2.<br>
                      <br>
                      I have also made a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/TEC/"
                        target="_blank"><b>TEC_2014_04.osm</b></a>, but
                      to be used as an alternating display.<br>
                      That's because two osm layers are not designed to
                      display at the same time by JOSM.<br>
                      But parts of it can be merged to any layer, e.g.
                      to extract and distribute à la tasking manager.<br>
                      With JOSM, the tags of one TEC node can be very
                      easily be copied and pasted to an OSM node.<br>
                      I made the following TEC => OSM tag conversion.<br>
                      POT_NOM_HA => name<br>
                      POT_ID => ref<br>
                      POT_ZONE_T => zone<br>
                      They are full of Osmose detectable or not mistakes
                      with missing accents on uppercase letters.<br>
                      <br>
                      Any comment welcome.<br>
                      I'll make any improvement when the above bug will
                      be fixed.<br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <pre>Please, do not batch import ! </pre>
                          I saw in the previous version a lot of
                          mistakes, comparing data to Bing! Imagery and
                          also to Walloon's orthophotos. We may be more
                          accurate than the original data :-)<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      Import what?<br>
                      We are certainly not going to replace OSM ways
                      with TEC ways!<br>
                      As to the bus stop nodes, <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1645537259#map=19/50.53943/5.65284"
                        target="_blank">at this place, they are on each
                        side of the crossing</a> but the TEC map locates
                      them on the other, same side. The stop location is
                      rough and OSM puts it right in the shelter.<br>
                      As to the name, I wrote the TEC in June 2012 that
                      it is not "Heid des Chênes" but "Haie des Chênes"
                      and they still use the wrong name.<br>
                      <div>
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                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>Généalogie du jeu de données</div>
                            </div>
                            <div>Sélection manuelle de tronçons TomTom.<br>
                              4 attributs sont disponibles pour
                              l'instant : le code de la ligne, le TEC
                              propriétaire, le numéro de la ligne et le
                              nom de la ligne. </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      Should we suggest TEC to replace TomTom with OSM?
                      ;-)<br>
                      <br>
                      SPW are epic!<br>
                      <br>
                      In sh'Allah ;-)<br>
                      <br>
                      Cheers,<br>
                      <br>
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                            <td>André.</td>
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                      <br>
                      <br>
                      On 2014-04-27 01:00, André Pirard wrote :<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div>On 2014-04-25 08:26, Julien Fastré wrote :<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <pre>Hi !

Good news ! (Alleluia :-) )

The TEC is publishing now data under Open Data Licence !

On <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be" target="_blank">geoportail.wallonie.be</a>, the data "Poteaux d'arrêts" (bus stop) and
"ligne de bus" (bus lines) are now under CC BY-SA 4.0 international
Licence :

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?mdUUID=47676af7-aab3-4d2e-9c9c-cd86e7ad7241" target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?mdUUID=47676af7-aab3-4d2e-9c9c-cd86e7ad7241</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?mdUUID=a5dc5bc7-3c37-4783-9c41-27ce2f83f3ae" target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?mdUUID=a5dc5bc7-3c37-4783-9c41-27ce2f83f3ae</a>

The schedules are also available here :
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://opendata.awt.be/organization/groupe-tec" target="_blank">http://opendata.awt.be/organization/groupe-tec</a> (in a "Belgian format"...
glups... I still haven't opened it yet).

We are now allowed to import those data's in OSM.
</pre>
                      </blockquote>
                      Thanks Julien.<br>
                      I'd gladly add this to my list of JOSM imagery
                      sites but I see no WMS configuration.<br>
                      Is there a JOSM configuration?<br>
                      <br>
                      If I try to look at the Arcgis configuration you
                      mention<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Poteaux/MapServer"
                        target="_blank">http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Poteaux/MapServer</a><br>
                      <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer"
                          target="_blank">http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer</a>
                      </div>
                      I get a 403 error.<br>
                      How can it be used?<br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <pre>Please, do not batch import ! </pre>
                        I saw in the previous version a lot of mistakes,
                        comparing data to Bing! Imagery and also to
                        Walloon's orthophotos. We may be more accurate
                        than the original data :-)</blockquote>
                      What about importing the data to a TEC.osm file,
                      splitting this file into pieces to distribute to
                      volunteers that would use JOSM to overlay them on
                      top of OSM and other maps, rectify them subpiece
                      by subpieces and move them to the OSM layer to
                      update? I see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://www.google.be/#&q=osm+import+tasking+manager"
                        target="_blank">references to OSM import tasking
                        managers</a>.<br>
                      <br>
                      I'm glad to learn that the Walloon othophotos can
                      be used to check, understand and put right other
                      maps.<br>
                      I never fully understood the only phrase of <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/mentions-legales.html"
                        target="_blank">their terms</a> that seems to
                      apply to us.<br>
                      What does "ligne graphique" mean?<br>
                      Can a SPW map be used to rectify another SPW map?
                      ;-)<br>
                      <br>
                      Beware of Bing! !!!  It has an offset error at
                      high zoom in many places responsible for many OSM
                      imprecisions.<br>
                      The recently mentioned Mapbox seems to have the
                      same images as Bing! but with a different offset.<br>
                      I didn't check (yet) if it exhibits the same
                      errors as Bing!<br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">At Champs Libres, we are
                        planning to provide an online "comparator" from
                        TEC data to OSM data, using the old and new
                        public transport schema. This will allow to see
                        where are missing bus stops, where they are
                        mispelled, etc. We will do it during May.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                      If the SPW keeps not making a WMS server, what
                      about making a Champs Libres proxy serving WMS?<br>
                      This would allow doing what you say together with
                      OSM updates while staying in the same JOSM window.<br>
                      <br>
                      Cheers, <br>
                      <br>
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                            <td>André.</td>
                          </tr>
                        </tbody>
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                    </blockquote>
                    <br>
                  </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                -------- Original Message --------
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                      <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE"
                        align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
                      <td>RE: accès WalonPortal aux données du TEC</td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE"
                        align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
                      <td>Fri, 9 May 2014 11:32:04 +0000</td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE"
                        align="RIGHT">From: </th>
                      <td>helpdesk.carto <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:helpdesk.carto@spw.wallonie.be"
                          target="_blank"><helpdesk.carto@spw.wallonie.be></a></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE"
                        align="RIGHT">To: </th>
                      <td>André Pirard <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:A.Pirard@ulg.ac.be"
                          target="_blank"><A.Pirard@ulg.ac.be></a></td>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                      lang="FR-BE">Bonjour,</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                      lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                      lang="FR-BE">Le problème est connu. </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                      lang="FR-BE">La SRWT n’a pas encore totalement
                      ouvert son infrastructure IT. Je les relance.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                      lang="FR-BE">Bien à vous</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                      lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                        lang="FR-BE">Je reste à votre disposition.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                        lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                        lang="FR-BE">Bien à vous.</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                        lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                        lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#365f91"><img
src="cid:part21.00090305.01080005@fastre.info" alt="image001"
                                  width="125" height="62"></span><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#365f91"
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                                  lang="FR-BE">HelpDesk Carto</span></b></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                                lang="FR-BE">Département de la
                                Géomatique</span><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                                  lang="FR-BE"> - </span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                                lang="FR-BE"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be"
                                  target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be</a></span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040">081/71.59.08</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                                lang="FR-BE">(SPA)</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#365f91"> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"> </span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE">Vous souhaitez être informé des
                          dernières actualités, abonnez-vous à la </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/home/ressources/newsletter.html"
                            target="_blank"><span lang="FR-BE">newsletter</span></a></span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE"> et/ou aux différents flux </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"><img
src="cid:part24.03090507.03010005@fastre.info" alt="feed" border="0"
                            width="16" height="16"></span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE"> du </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/"
                            target="_blank"><span lang="FR-BE">Géoportail
                              de la Wallonie</span></a></span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE">. </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                          lang="FR-BE">Si vous avez des questions,
                          n’hésitez pas à consulter la </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/render/live/fr/sites/geoportail/home/ressources/faq.html"
                            target="_blank"><span lang="FR-BE">FAQ</span></a></span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"></span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                          lang="FR-BE">du Géoportail de la Wallonie.</span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE"></span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                        lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE">"Ce message n'engage aucunement
                          le SPW et reste informel. Tout courrier
                          officiel doit toujours actuellement être
                          confirmé par lettre et revêtu de la signature
                          d'un agent dûment mandaté"</span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040"
                          lang="FR-BE"></span></i></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                      lang="FR-BE"> </span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                            lang="FR">De :</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                          lang="FR"> André Pirard [<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:A.Pirard@ulg.ac.be"
                            target="_blank">mailto:A.Pirard@ulg.ac.be</a>]
                          <br>
                          <b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 7 mai 2014 19:03<br>
                          <b>À :</b> helpdesk.carto<br>
                          <b>Objet :</b> accès WalonPortal aux données
                          du TEC</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Bonjour,<br>
                    <br>
                    Sur votre page  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home.html"
                      title="Retour à la page d'accueil" target="_blank">
                      Géoportail de la Wallonie</a>  je trouve</p>
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                        <td style="padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt"
                          valign="top">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home.html" title="Aller au
                              Géocatalogue" target="_blank">Mobilité</a>
                          </p>
                        </td>
                        <td style="padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt"
                          valign="top"><br>
                        </td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <td style="padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30"
                              title="Aller au Géocatalogue"
                              target="_blank"><span
                                style="text-decoration:none"><img
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/images/Cartes-et-Donnees/Themes/mobilite_03.png"
                                  alt="mobilite_03.png" border="0"
                                  width="55" height="55"></span></a></p>
                        </td>
                        <td style="padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt"
                          valign="top">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30&search-subtheme=soustheme_3010"
                              title="Routes" target="_blank">Routes</a>
                            <br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30&search-subtheme=soustheme_3020"
                              title="A pied & à vélo"
                              target="_blank">A pied & à vélo</a> <br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30&search-subtheme=soustheme_3030"
                              title="Voies navigables" target="_blank">Voies
                              navigables</a> <br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30&search-subtheme=soustheme_3040"
                              title="Transports en commun"
                              target="_blank">Transports en commun</a> <br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30&search-subtheme=soustheme_3099"
                              title="Autres mobilités" target="_blank">Autres
                              mobilités</a> </p>
                        </td>
                      </tr>
                    </tbody>
                  </table>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                    je clique sur  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/en/home/geocatalogue.html?search-theme=theme_30&search-subtheme=soustheme_3040"
                      title="Transports en commun" target="_blank">
                      Transports en commun</a>  et je trouve une liste
                    vide ainsi que le message<br>
                    Votre recherche n'a donné aucun résultat. Merci
                    d'effectuer une nouvelle recherche en précisant vos
                    critères.<br>
                    Je fais la recherche  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?&search-text=TEC"
                      target="_blank">
http://geoportail.wallonie.be/geocatalogue?&search-text=TEC</a> 
                    sans résultat.<br>
                    Je m'aperçois ensuite que le Géocatalogue est
                    complètement vide.<br>
                    <br>
                    Je trouve alors en dehors de votre site les liens
                    que je cherche: <br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Mais quand je veux ouvrir </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                      - Service(s) de visualisation</p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Poteaux/MapServer"
                        target="_blank">http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Poteaux/MapServer</a>)
                    </p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">- Service(s) de visualisation</p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer"
                        target="_blank">http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer</a>)
                    </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                    j'obtiens une erreur 403<br>
                    <br>
                    et quand je veux ouvrir les cartes,</p>
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                      - Application WalOnMap - Toute la Wallonie à la
                      carte</p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/walonmap/#ADU=http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer"
                        target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be/walonmap/#ADU=http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Lignes/MapServer</a>)
                    </p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">- Application WalOnMap - Toute la
                    Wallonie à la carte</p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoportail.wallonie.be/walonmap/#ADU=http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Poteaux/MapServer"
                        target="_blank">http://geoportail.wallonie.be/walonmap/#ADU=http://geodata.tec-wl.be/arcgis/rest/services/Poteaux/MapServer</a>)
                    </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                    Une roue tourne et se transforme en croix rouge et
                    il n'y a pas de carte du tout.<br>
                    <br>
                    Merci de corriger ces problèmes pour donner accès à
                    ces données.<br>
                    <br>
                    Merci d'avance,<br>
                    Bien à vous,</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">André Pirard.</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                    Toute utilisation non sollicitée de mes données
                    personnelles <br>
                    ne peut se faire qu'après mon autorisation explicite
                    par écrit. </p>
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