<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div id="yiv9142680378"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378" style=""><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_8804" style=""><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_8803" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_6_1404409807498_4" style=""><span class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6443" style="">Hi,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Decent documentation is certainly useful, but some
 remarks:</span></div><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_6_1404409807498_48" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6443" style="">-
 Everywhere else on that page
 route=foot is mentioned in the tagging examples. I don't care whether foot or hiking is chosen, but it should be everywhere the same.</span></div><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_6_1404409807498_52" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6443" style="">- ref: If a hiking route has a reference number 33 on the official map and on the official website, my opinion is that that number should be chosen as reference, not some number in that inventaire of the </span>Commissariat général au Tourisme. Another example is Saint-Ode which uses references A1 - A7 etc. which are again much more useful than the numbers on the inventaire. And for some communties/SI's the hiking routes in the inventaire have no name, so it's impossible
 to know which hiking route one finds on the
 field or on the map has which number in the inventaire.<br clear="none">- name: I prefer to use a name as a name, not a combination of reference and name, or a combination of reference and community and name. <span class="yiv9142680378tab" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_8_1404409807498_50"></span><br class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_10294" style="" clear="none">- wikiloc: The first line on <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_10287" style="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking_Routes">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking_Routes</a> says: "Mapping of walking and/or biking routes must be restricted to routes 
signposted by an official tourism agency that is assigning the node 
numbers, if any, and writing them to the signs". So, apparently personal hiking routes which are not signposted shouldn't be added to OSM...<br class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_10498" style="" clear="none">- osmc:symbol: perhaps you could refer to <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_10491" style="" target="_blank" href="http://www.waymarkedtrails.org/en/help/rendering/osmc">http://www.waymarkedtrails.org/en/help/rendering/osmc</a>?<br clear="none">- colour=* could also be a useful tag<br clear="none"><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">
</div><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_6_1404409807498_52" style="">Regards,</div><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_8_1404409807498_39" style=""><br id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_8_1404409807498_44" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_8_1404409807498_41" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">StijnRR<br id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_10861" clear="none"></div><br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv9142680378yqt8484010545" id="yiv9142680378yqt39487"><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yqt02785" style=""><div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_6_1404409807498_22" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div
 class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6459" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv9142680378" dir="ltr" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6458" style=""> <hr class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6469" style="" size="1">  <font class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6465" style="" face="Arial" size="2"> <b class="yiv9142680378" style=""><span class="yiv9142680378" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ben Laenen <benlaenen@gmail.com><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"> <b class="yiv9142680378" style=""><span class="yiv9142680378" style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> talk-be@openstreetmap.org <br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"> <b class="yiv9142680378" style=""><span class="yiv9142680378" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
 Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:30 PM<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"> <b class="yiv9142680378" style=""><span class="yiv9142680378" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonia hiking route schema<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_6460" style=""><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">On Thursday 03 July 2014 18:28:10 André Pirard wrote:<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">> In Wallonia hikes, StijnRR <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_9970" style="" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/StijnRR">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/StijnRR</a>><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">> was removing without any notification
 ref=ID, changing route=hiking to<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">> =foot, removing the ID from name= ...<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">> As the documentation was virtually null, I modified this paragraph<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_9958" style="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking</a><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">> _Routes#Wallonie>. Does everybody agree with the schema?<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">What's Wikiloc, and why would it need to be in the ref tag? Are these wikiloc <br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">routes signed at all?<br
 class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">route=foot or route=hiking is virtually the same, I wouldn't worry
 about it, <br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">there's
 probably a big discussion about it somewhere in the talk mailing list <br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">archives.<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">Ben<div class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yqtfd44452" style=""><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">_______________________________________________<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none">Talk-be mailing list<br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9142680378" id="yiv9142680378yui_3_16_0_1_1404409807498_9969" style="" ymailto="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="yiv9142680378" style="" clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9142680378" style="" target="_blank"
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