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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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First of all, deepest congratulations to Julien on his new baby.<br>
Family life is what matters most.<br>
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Le 24/09/14 06:57, Jo a écrit :<br>
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<div>2014-09-21 15:24 GMT+02:00 Gilbert Hersschens <span
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using the aerial imagery for Wallonia from arcgis. Are
we allowed to use them or not ?
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<div>Regards, Gilbert</div>
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Hi Gilbert,<br>
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It would be good if that could be cleared up. I don't know
who to ask though. It seems like Julien has other stuff to
worry about at the moment.<br>
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Jo<br>
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10 mo answer:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-05-08 16:58, Julien Fastré
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Hi,<br>
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good news from the walloon front : the strategic plan for
geomatica was approved, and, following those who may read it,
our request sent with OKFN were heard ! <br>
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The minister Henry asked to the SPW (his administration) to set
up all data from SPW as Open Data; they received a "green light"
to do that. Politically, it seems to me something really new.<br>
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On 2014-09-24 10:55, Julien Fastré wrote :<br>
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Hi,<br>
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Indeed, having a little baby at home take time...<br>
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I received an email last week from the SPW saying that there are a
new "conditions d'utilisation du service" which allow us to copy
data from the Orthophoto and - maybe - other datas. <br>
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<pre wrap=""> je vous informe de la situation concernant
l'autorisation d'utilisation des orthophotos via nos services : nous
avons rédigé une _licence services qui est « générale »_. Elle
s'applique aux différents cas de figure possibles et pas seulement à l'utilisation des orthophotos.</pre>
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(...)<br>
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<pre wrap="">Puisque la « licence services » a été adoptée, celle-ci s'applique
donc. </pre>
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<pre wrap="">Par application de celle-ci, les différents utilisateurs ont le droit
de se connecter aux serveurs du SPW, de digitaliser les ortho et de
réutiliser les fonds de plan produits par eux à des fins commerciales.
Donc, elle répond aussi à votre demande !</pre>
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Reading the licence, it is not said "you may copy data to OSM",
but they say : <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Article 3. Principe<br>
§1 er . Sous réserve du paragraphe 2, le SPW permet l’accès et
l’utilisation gratuits des services par<br>
tout utilisateur.<br>
§2. Les services à accès sécurisé font l’objet d’une
autorisation dont les modalités sont décrites dans<br>
les métadonnées associées.</blockquote>
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</b><b>We may use the services.</b> In Wallonia, some things
happens in a quite formal/informal way. Some people are not
convinced by an official ODbL licence, or CC-BY, but a lot of
people are fighting for that inside the SPW, and that's what we
could reach, until now.<br>
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Julien<br>
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On my side, I wrote long explanations that SPW does <b>not</b>
provide WMS for most data (1) and that when it does it does, it does
not, despite claims, provide EPSG:4326 which is practically
considered a WMS requirement and is necessary for JOSM; Julien
answered that these are not interesting remarks.<br>
So, the answer to "WMS for Wallonia" is "no" but if you restrict the
question to "aerial imagery" it is the only case for which EPSG:4326
WMS exists (if the bug is corrected (one half of Wallonia blank)).<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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(1)<br>
Minister Henry's "all data"<br>
SPW's "Elle s'applique aux différents cas de figure possibles et pas
seulement à l'utilisation des orthophotos."<br>
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