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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-09-26 13:31, Marc Gemis wrote :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Would it be a solution to use loc_ref or nat_ref
(see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref</a>)
for A.001.123 ?</div>
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admin_ref has been suggested by Ben and is <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines">mentioned
here</a>.<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> and ref and/or int_ref for E25 ?</div>
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Regarding the GPS voice instructions issue, anything that looks like
a street identification will do and hence "ref" does. I can check
others.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:16 PM, André
Pirard <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>On 2014-09-25 12:00, Ben Laenen wrote :<br>
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<pre>On Thursday 25 September 2014 07:05:29 Marc Gemis wrote:
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<pre>On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:08 AM, André Pirard <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com" target="_blank"><A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com></a>
wrote:
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<pre>I added destination:ref=E25 on a link and Osmand kept silent while going
onto it.
I added ref=E25 on the next link and Osmand said "turn right onto E25".
So, I recommend the latter.
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<pre>If we agree on this, it is pretty easy to write an Overpass Query to locate
all those motorway links and add the refs systematically.
Just let me know if there are any objections to André's proposal, otherwise
I'll start adding them.
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<pre>Yeah, I object. Again, it's not the ref of the link, which is usually in the
form of A.001.123, which we don't map currently. </pre>
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</span> You seem to be really the only person to use that
kind of id for ref.<br>
As I wrote, among those who care to use ref on links, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BJwpeMUe0I&R"
target="_blank">United Kingdom</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BLstnXsViJ&R"
target="_blank">Netherlands</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BMWJt14WeJ&R"
target="_blank">Germany</a> ... all use the same ref as
the motorway for them. I would be interested to see the
reaction of a driver being told to go "onto A.001.123"
instead of "onto E25". <br>
Yourself wrote that they should be tagged as
admin_ref=A.001.123, which is a number for motorway
maintenance personal and certainly not the general public.<span
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<pre>Routers should just become smarter and understand the tags like destination:ref. File a bug report over
there.
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</span> [Please feel free to] have the "destination
sub-keys" proposition finalized and voted, suggest every
router writer to support destination sub-keys and come
back to us in a few years to report success.<br>
In the meantime, we have a solution already working very
well to-day.<br>
When you have the proposition finalized, beware of such
gotchas as:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Supposing a road junction where 2
road signs with <b>destination:ref=Exx</b> tags lead in
different directions to different entrances of the Exx
motorway, e.g. northbound and southbound. In addition to
"Exx", the GPS software must obviously tell to the
driver the "city" written next to Exx to determine which
of the 2 roads to take. How can it know which city is
written next to each Exx (each road may contain
destination=city1;city2,...;cityn of which some are not
related to Exx)?<br>
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It's OK Marc, you can do the same as in <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BJwpeMUe0I&R"
target="_blank">United Kingdom</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BLstnXsViJ&R"
target="_blank">Netherlands</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BMWJt14WeJ&R"
target="_blank">Germany</a> etc ... <br>
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Cheers,<br>
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