<div dir="ltr"><div>Hallo Martijn,</div><div><br></div>I just picked a random exit node <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/31247369" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/31247369</a><div><br></div><div>it has the following tags:</div><br>exit_to=Turnhout, Kasterlee<br>highway=motorway_junction<br>name=Turnhout-Centrum<br>ref=24<div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, this is not typical for Belgium. I also checked some junctions around Antwerp (<a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/5bG" target="_blank">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/5bG</a> ) , none of them has an "exit_to". The name and ref are what we use for all our exits. They all have a number and a name.</div><div>During my lanes/turn:lanes editing in Flandres, I've encountered a handful of cases where there is a destination on the motorway_link (the exit).</div><div><br></div><div>Furthermore we do not have a lot of "destination" tags, that is why Johan proposed to help us, based on some images he took. He would tag the destinations as in The Netherlands, so with a destination and destination:ref tag. Perhaps even with the destination:symbol extension.</div><div><br></div><div>André's example was for an entrance to a motorway, not an exit (if I'm not mistaken). I assume we have even less (destination) data there.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>None of the keys is used really much: <a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/destination/destination:forward/destination:backward/exit_to">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/destination/destination:forward/destination:backward/exit_to</a></div><div>but based on the fact that there is some growing support for destination in the US (pushed by you guys I understand), I would prefer to use destination.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>m</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Martijn van Exel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mvexel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mvexel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just FYI - in the U.S. we have been moving from the (deprecated)<br>
exit_to= on the motorway_junction node to tagging the destinations on<br>
the _link ways using destination= and destination:ref=. For the exit<br>
numbers, we keep it simple and use ref= on the motorway_junction node.<br>
This is also what the Scout app supports for the US (even though it<br>
also looks at exit_to= because there is still so many of those left).<br>
Note that this is just for the exits, not for the main roadways.<br>
<br>
See also my diary entry at <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/22419" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/22419</a><br>
<br>
The wiki has a lot of partially contradictory tagging proposals, but I<br>
feel that the combination of destination / destination:ref on the<br>
_link and ref on the motorway_junction node is the simplest convention<br>
that covers all bases.<br>
<br>
Did you end up with a 'definitive' way of doing it in Belgium / NL<br>
yet? Have you looked at common practice in surrounding countries?<br>
<br>
Thanks / Martijn<br>
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Marc Gemis <<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> No problem. we can use a similar Overpass query to locate the ones without<br>
> destination:ref<br>
><br>
><br>
> regards<br>
><br>
> m<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Laenen <<a href="mailto:benlaenen@gmail.com">benlaenen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Thursday 25 September 2014 07:05:29 Marc Gemis wrote:<br>
>> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:08 AM, André Pirard <<a href="mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com">A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> > > I added destination:ref=E25 on a link and Osmand kept silent while<br>
>> > > going<br>
>> > > onto it.<br>
>> > > I added ref=E25 on the next link and Osmand said "turn right onto<br>
>> > > E25".<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > So, I recommend the latter.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > If we agree on this, it is pretty easy to write an Overpass Query to<br>
>> > locate<br>
>> > all those motorway links and add the refs systematically.<br>
>> > Just let me know if there are any objections to André's proposal,<br>
>> > otherwise<br>
>> > I'll start adding them.<br>
>><br>
>> Yeah, I object. Again, it's not the ref of the link, which is usually in<br>
>> the<br>
>> form of A.001.123, which we don't map currently. Routers should just<br>
>> become<br>
>> smarter and understand the tags like destination:ref. File a bug report<br>
>> over<br>
>> there.<br>
>><br>
>> Greetings,<br>
>> Ben<br>
>><br>
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