<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Jakka <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vdmfrankvdm@gmail.com" target="_blank">vdmfrankvdm@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1oa" class="" style="overflow:hidden">highway=footway<br>
access=no<br>
bicycle=yes<br></div></blockquote></div><br>Jakka,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">this actually means that only cyclists are allowed.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">as Andre pointed out   (by linking to the Belgian rules) highway=footway means a "road" with vehicle=no,foot=yes. Thus something where only pedestrians are allowed.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">By then explicitly marking it as access=no, you remove all access rights (also those for pedestrians). And  you only turn access on for cyclists by adding bicycle=yes.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">With respect to "<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px">except that bicycle=yes is meaningless if there's no other tag</span></div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px">forbidding bikes such as access=no."   The "access=no" for cyclists is part of highway=footway, so you do not have to tag that explicitly.</span><br style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px"><div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px">So yes, in the case of  highway=cycleway,bicycle=yes   the latter is meaningless. Why ? Well highway=cycleway means foot=yes,bicycle=yes; so there is no tag forbidding cyclist.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px">Please note that in some countries (e.g. Germany) highway=cycleway means bicycle=yes, foot=no !</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px"><br></span></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">To </span>summarise<span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">: there is no need to explicitly tag what is implicitly stated by the type of highway. For that see </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Belgium">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Belgium</a></font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif">Only tag exceptions to those rules</font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif">nothing fuzzy about that.</font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif">regards & happy mapping</font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif">m</font></div></div>