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    <div dir="ltr">On 2014-12-28 22:55, Jo wrote :<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-28 21:39 GMT+01:00 André Pirard
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              <div>On 2014-12-28 18:30, Jo wrote :<br>
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                        <div>This is long overdue, but I finally got
                          round to it. I added a page<br>
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                          with WMS sources for Belgium, for which we
                          have permission to use.<br>
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                          So now there are 3 more entries on this page:<br>
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                            target="_blank">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps</a><br>
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                        The resolutions are all better than Bing. They
                        are also more recent.<br>
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                      Is there somebody who knows a convenient way to
                      add those coordinates, so a shape is shown?<br>
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                      AGIV also has coverage for Brussels, The Walloon
                      imagery also covers the German speaking part of
                      Belgium.<br>
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              </span> Well done, Jo.  The only thing to do is now:<br>
              JOSM>Imagery>Imagery Preferences[<img
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              BE...>Activate<span class=""><br>
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          <div>Indeed, you have to refresh your list of Imagery in JOSM
            to see that these are available now.<br>
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                    <div>I don't know much about projections, but
                      EPSG:4326 seems to work just fine for all three.<br>
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              </span> Projections are simple: a mathematical
              transformation of the Earth surface to draw it on a plane
              (screen).<br>
              EPSG:4326 uses the GPS coordinates (degrees) linearly (d °
              NS/EW = c cm  vertically/horizontally).<br>
              Cylindrical is the projection as if by light beams
              perpendicular to the Earth axis.<br>
              Mercator is the same but with a vertical correction so
              that the polar regions are not flattened.<br>
              These 3 are quickly transformed one to another with little
              CPU.<br>
              Hence, JOSM, which normally uses Mercator on screen, can
              convert any to its screen projection.<br>
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              The (Belgian) cartographers use Lambert projections which
              is similar to cylindrical, but on a cone that is tangent
              to a line going across their country (Belgium).  This is
              so that the proportions of the distances are the same
              vertically and horizontally. The Belgian servers serve
              them too.  In addition to EPSG:4326.  Except SPW (<span><span>
                  ;-) </span></span>).<span class=""><br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">Thank you. I still don't fully understand, I
      merely grasp the concept somewhat... I don't believe I'll ever
      call them 'simple' though.<br>
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    Maybe the SPW too? <span class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span><br>
    One needs pictures.  This, maybe   (jgetoppositelng();  Dutch
    available (opposite???!!!))<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ngi.be/FR/FR2-1-4.shtm">http://www.ngi.be/FR/FR2-1-4.shtm</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ngi.be/FR/FR2-1-7.shtm">http://www.ngi.be/FR/FR2-1-7.shtm</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ngi.be/FR/FR2-1-6.shtm">http://www.ngi.be/FR/FR2-1-6.shtm</a><br>
    Wikipedia<br>
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                      <div>Feel free to improve/extend that wiki page,
                        if you can.<br>
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                </span> I would add Wallonia 2009.  It is sometimes
                useful (e.g. to get rid of trees).<br>
                Is it just a matter of editing the file?  Have to
                refresh the server?<br>
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            <div>You edit the wiki page, the rest is done behind the
              scenes. I guess everybody has to refresh their list of
              imagery to see that somebody changed the page.<br>
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    I did, but I don't understand why someone renamed the 2012 map to
    2009 at the same time !!!<br>
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    I created:<br>
    <b>SPW(allon) 2012 aerial imagery</b><b><br>
    </b><b>SPW(allon) 2009 aerial imagery</b><b><br>
    </b>(so that the essential appears in the short space in the JOSM
    list).<br>
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    I corrected the bounds (values changed and minlat/maxlat were
    inverted)<br>
    I set the format to jpeg instead of bmp (less cache memory for a
    trifle more CPU).<br>
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    <b>Please check if it's OK with you before I remove the old 2012 aka
      2009 entry.</b><br>
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                same or what should be used?<br>
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            <div>you mean what to enter as the source of the changeset?
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    <tt><span class="nt"><id></span></tt><tt>SPW</tt><tt><span
        class="nt"></id></span></tt>  <span class="nt">of course</span>,
    is the name "SPW" referenced anywhere?<br>
    I made the new ones SPW2009 and SPW2012.<br>
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            Cheers <br>
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                      <td>André.</td>
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