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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=FR-BE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What is Osmand ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In Basecamp or using garmin gps (e-trex), Maillen can NOT be found, even without street.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You will find Assesse and you have to know that Maillen belongs to Assesse.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>“</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Strépy-Braquegnies </span><span lang=EN-GB>is not a boundary but a Residential Area (a landuse). You can't use one in an OSM search. »<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Strépy-Braquegnies is a city that has its own postal code (7110) and is totally different from La Louvière having another postal code (7100)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What if there is another street with the same name exists in 7100 La Louvière? Nothing prevents it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If you are walking or cycling, there is 8 Km between Strépy-Braquegnies and La Louvière. That’s a lot. If your map can’t figure out this, paper maps might be better!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bien à vous,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alain Bourgeois<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>+32 496 51 85 75<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.kineuro.com/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://www.kineuro.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> André Pirard [mailto:A.Pirard.Papou@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> lundi 23 février 2015 01:48<br><b>To:</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] city names - bug in OFM?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2015-02-22 23:13, Alain Bourgeois wrote :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Maillen and Assesse are not the only bug.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>With Osmand, I find Maillen e.g. Place du Bâti and OSM finds "Place du Bâti Maillen" but that's <b>near</b> Maillen which is a village, that result is in Assesse which is a city. OSM also finds "Place du Bâti Assesse", of course.<br>Osmand also finds Assesse if you tap "villages" (OSM calls it a city, not even a town, ahem).<br><br>Kortessem and Wellen are in Osmand all-right, but, again, you have to tap on "villages" when the list gets short.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We found other ones (event bigger).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>e.g. try to find Rue Jean-Baptiste Monoyer in 7110 Strépy-Braquegnies. You will not find it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>To locate it you have to search on … </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Rue <b>JB</b> Monoyer, in <b>7100</b> <b>La Louvière</b>.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In order to find "<span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Rue Jean-Baptiste Monoyer" it should be </span>called "Rue Jean-Baptiste Monoyer" and not "Rue JB Monoyer".<br>I have corrected that bug.<br><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br>Strépy-Braquegnies </span>is not a boundary but a Residential Area (a landuse). You can't use one in an OSM search.<br>You could if it were a (non-administrative) boundary, and even not, found in a subarea and Nominatim supported that, but that's another discussion.<br><br>There is no need to include "Jean-Baptiste" in the query.<br>Your street is located (nested) in Pont Balasse, La Louvière, Soignies, Hainaut, Wallonia, 7100;7110, Belgium<br>So, any of these queries returns your answer: "Monoyer Pont Balasse", "Monoyer La Louvière", "Monoyer Soignies", "Monoyer Hainaut", "Monoyer Wallonia", "Monoyer Belgium" or "Monoyer".<br><br>I'm not sure what the post code is or can be used for unless you are a letter.<br><br>Except for JB, I don't find a bug, less "other ones", less "event bigger".<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>André.<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I thought it was due to postal code, but sometimes streets are associated to wrong postal code!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bien à vous,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alain Bourgeois</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>+32 496 51 85 75</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.kineuro.com/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://www.kineuro.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Erik Beerten [<a href="mailto:ebe050@gmail.com">mailto:ebe050@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> jeudi 25 décembre 2014 19:25<br><b>To:</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] city names - bug in OFM?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The problem with the missing municipalities also exists in OSMAND where some as Kortessem and Wellen are not listed although they are in OSM.<br><br>A solution for tagging boundaries can be checking for natural boundaries = rivers, in different sources first. In Flanders those rivers as natural boundaries are mostly good visible on the AGIV air imagery. <br>But what about a similar usable tool for Wallonie. I didn't hear more about how to use a similar source as AGIV for Wallonie in JOSM (?).<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Erik <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 23-12-14 om 18:14 schreef Marc Gemis:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>As you could see from the link in my previous post, Mallien is mapped as a node. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ligfietser wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>"<span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>The OFM map looks at the administrative boundaries on OSM to assign the streets to a place:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Boundaries#Namur"><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#005CB1;background:#DEDFDF'>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki … ries#Namur</span></a><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><br><span style='background:#DEDFDF'>First it looks in level 8 (municipality of Assese) and if available, it looks deeper at a section (sub municipality) admin_level=9. I dont know if this is the case in Maillen.</span><br><span style='background:#DEDFDF'>If there exists such a section of level 9, it must be entered in OSM. If there is no section, streets could be tagged with </span></span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in"><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#005CB1;background:#DEDFDF'>is_in</span></a><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><br><span style='background:#DEDFDF'>If those sections are not specified, the map cannot find a street in Maillen so you must either enter Assesse or try another OSM map (no guarantee it work either) or a commercial map."</span></span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>So in order to make OFM work, we need the boundaries for Mallien as a relation. We do not have them in OSM at this moment.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>Those borders are hard to get. I don't know the situation for this in Wallonia. In Flanders we have a lot of admin-level 9 boundaries (deelgemeenten), but even there the list is not complete. Maybe Julien Fastré or André know more about this.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>In general, we have to base ourselves on out-of-date maps for the borders. We are not allowed to copy them from Google or other institutions that ask a lot of money for that data. Sometimes governments open up a datasource with those boundaries. This is not the case in Belgium. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>Furthermore most recent databases from the government do not care about those "deelgemeenten", which makes it even harder to get access to a source to use.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#DEDFDF'>m</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Alain Bourgeois <<a href="mailto:alain.bourgeois@skynet.be" target="_blank">alain.bourgeois@skynet.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I tried the Benelux map downloaded 6 months ago – same problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I reported the trouble on the forum (<a href="http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=473300#p473300" target="_blank">http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=473300#p473300</a>) and they sent me to Belgian team.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bien à vous,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alain Bourgeois</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%2B32%20496%2051%2085%2075" target="_blank">+32 496 51 85 75</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.kineuro.com/" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>http://www.kineuro.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Marc Gemis [mailto:<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> mardi 23 décembre 2014 17:37<br><b>To:</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] city names - bug in OFM?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Alain Bourgeois <</span><a href="mailto:alain.bourgeois@skynet.be" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-GB>alain.bourgeois@skynet.be</span></a><span lang=EN-GB>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Maillen</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB><br>The good news is that the village is in the OSM-data [1].</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>The bad news is that we now have to find out why it does not appear in the map you have downloaded.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Did you try the the Benelux Full version [2] ? I assume it is more detailed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Otherwise you can always contact the maker of the map via </span><a href="mailto:info@openfietsmap.nl" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-GB>info@openfietsmap.nl</span></a><span lang=EN-GB> He can explain which information from OSM is available in the different versions of his map.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>m</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>[1] </span><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/31566150#map=13/50.3777/4.9701&layers=N" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-GB>http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/31566150#map=13/50.3777/4.9701&layers=N</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>[2] </span><a href="http://www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/bnl_full" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-GB>http://www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/bnl_full</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-be mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Talk-be mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Talk-be mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>