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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><a href="http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/aJNbj0WPU5lR9zI1tZ2XSQ" target="_blank">http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/aJNbj0WPU5lR9zI1tZ2XSQ</a><div><br></div><div>There was no GPS reception in the garage.<br><br><div>Ph Casteleyn <br>Dahliastraat 16<BR>
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gsm 0486 516261<BR></div><br><br><div>> From: talk-be-request@openstreetmap.org<br>> Subject: Talk-be Digest, Vol 89, Issue 7<br>> To: talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 12:00:08 +0000<br>> <br>> Send Talk-be mailing list submissions to<br>> talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> talk-be-request@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> talk-be-owner@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Talk-be digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Multi-layer problems (Ruben Maes)<br>> 2. Re: Multi-layer problems (Marc Gemis)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 19:32:11 +0200<br>> From: Ruben Maes <ruben@janmaes.com><br>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: [OSM-talk-be] Multi-layer problems<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAOAgN4T4=nfjJ2qF6SDftZJiyf07QgazUT720gXJHcWzT+geCQ@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>> <br>> Hello everyone<br>> <br>> I surveyed near the new Virginie Loveling building near the train<br>> station in Ghent and mapped everything accordingly a few months ago.<br>> <br>> There are three levels of public road and the result on the map looks<br>> extremely ugly and unreadable:<br>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.03685/3.70898<br>> 3D maps can't handle it either (e.g. F4:<br>> http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.0367277&lon=3.7088474&zoom=19&camera.theta=71.119&camera.phi=94.252)<br>> <br>> The fact that highway=pedestrian is now *always* rendered on top of<br>> buildings (no matter what the layer=* values are) makes things worse.<br>> <br>> If you haven't been there, I guess you have no idea how this place<br>> looks in real life from looking at the map. I can't think of any<br>> application that would be able to do something useful with it.<br>> Routing works a bit but if you cannot read the map or get useful<br>> spoken instructions that's not really helpful.<br>> <br>> This has left me wondering ... Should we either cut in the provided<br>> data or wait for renderers and applications to be able to handle these<br>> kind of situations? A possible improvement could be something like<br>> Google Maps does: it shows a layer chooser when you come near a<br>> multi-layer place, both indoor and outdoor IIRC. This seems<br>> complicated to implement in the current setup and I don't expect any<br>> OSM map at all to be handling these situations gracefully soon.<br>> <br>> There are also problems near the Bruges train station, though it looks<br>> a bit less ugly at first sight.<br>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.19707/3.21997<br>> <br>> Any ideas?<br>> <br>> Groeten<br>> Ruben<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 05:23:40 +0200<br>> From: Marc Gemis <marc.gemis@gmail.com><br>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multi-layer problems<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAJKJX-TagOMPsBExzSpoDyGzon=-fFasz_8q=wDTHjs38an93g@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> I would never "cut in the data". I would just file a bug report with the<br>> renderer. OTOH I haven't looked at the raw data, and maybe with some slight<br>> retagging (without tagging for the renderer), it can be solved. Perhaps a<br>> tunnel=building_passage on the highway=pedestrian<br>> <br>> just my .5 cents<br>> <br>> regards<br>> <br>> m<br>> <br>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Ruben Maes <ruben@janmaes.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Hello everyone<br>> ><br>> > I surveyed near the new Virginie Loveling building near the train<br>> > station in Ghent and mapped everything accordingly a few months ago.<br>> ><br>> > There are three levels of public road and the result on the map looks<br>> > extremely ugly and unreadable:<br>> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.03685/3.70898<br>> > 3D maps can't handle it either (e.g. F4:<br>> ><br>> > http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.0367277&lon=3.7088474&zoom=19&camera.theta=71.119&camera.phi=94.252<br>> > )<br>> ><br>> > The fact that highway=pedestrian is now *always* rendered on top of<br>> > buildings (no matter what the layer=* values are) makes things worse.<br>> ><br>> > If you haven't been there, I guess you have no idea how this place<br>> > looks in real life from looking at the map. I can't think of any<br>> > application that would be able to do something useful with it.<br>> > Routing works a bit but if you cannot read the map or get useful<br>> > spoken instructions that's not really helpful.<br>> ><br>> > This has left me wondering ... Should we either cut in the provided<br>> > data or wait for renderers and applications to be able to handle these<br>> > kind of situations? A possible improvement could be something like<br>> > Google Maps does: it shows a layer chooser when you come near a<br>> > multi-layer place, both indoor and outdoor IIRC. This seems<br>> > complicated to implement in the current setup and I don't expect any<br>> > OSM map at all to be handling these situations gracefully soon.<br>> ><br>> > There are also problems near the Bruges train station, though it looks<br>> > a bit less ugly at first sight.<br>> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.19707/3.21997<br>> ><br>> > Any ideas?<br>> ><br>> > Groeten<br>> > Ruben<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Talk-be mailing list<br>> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/attachments/20150508/189f478c/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Subject: Digest Footer<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Talk-be mailing list<br>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> End of Talk-be Digest, Vol 89, Issue 7<br>> **************************************<br></div></div> </div></body>
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