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<br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 Nov 2015, at 23:46, Ben Abelshausen <<a href="mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.com" class="">ben.abelshausen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">They analyse based on zoom level 12 tiles, a bigger margin of error for smaller countries it says in the blogpost...</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Maybe we can get the source of whatever mikel did and rerun in more detail just for Belgium...</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Cheers,</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Ben</p>
<div class="class= gmail_quot<blockquote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">from <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/be.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/be.html</a><br class="">
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total: 154,012 km<br class="">
paved: 120,514 km (includes 1,756 km of expressways)<br class="">
unpaved: 33,498 km (2010)<br class="">
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Mapbox: 111,684 km<br class="">
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<a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nl.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nl.html</a><br class="">
total: 138,641 km (includes 3,530 km of expressways) (2014)<br class="">
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- no mention of unpaved roads there<br class="">
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It might be the unpaved part, should be investigated further for other<br class="">
countries.<br class="">
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m<br class="">
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Marc Gemis <<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" class="">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> 100% in Germany, The Netherlands, Luxembourg as well. Wonder why the<br class="">
> CIA thinks there are so many hidden roads in Belgium :-)<br class="">
> Or (more seriously) why the definition of road would be different for<br class="">
> Belgium compare to the other countries.<br class="">
><br class="">
> I cannot tell for Bolivia, but the Belgian roads are similar to other<br class="">
> Western European countries, so I would expect the CIA to use the same<br class="">
> definition there.<br class="">
><br class="">
> On the blog that was mentioned, you find a twitter address to contact<br class="">
> the Mapbox people. Maybe they can help ?<br class="">
><br class="">
> regards<br class="">
><br class="">
> m<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:30 AM, joost schouppe<br class="">
> <<a href="mailto:joost.schouppe@gmail.com" class="">joost.schouppe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>> I think in the CIA's imagination :)<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Huge differences like that, I'm afraid it says more about the differences of<br class="">
>> the definition of what consists of a motor road. For instance, I know the<br class="">
>> road network in OSM Bolivia to be far from complete as to smaller motor<br class="">
>> roads, but it's way over 100% of the CIA number. So they probably only took<br class="">
>> the main road network as a measure. Meanwhile, OSM is mapping roads that no<br class="">
>> other map has ever mapped :)<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> 2015-11-20 9:00 GMT+01:00 eMerzh <<a href="mailto:merzhin@gmail.com" class="">merzhin@gmail.com</a>>:<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> Interesting.... thanks for the link ....<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> but it seems surprising no?<br class="">
>>> France is at 100% and us at 73? ... it's kind of low no? any idea where<br class="">
>>> those road are?<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> 2015-11-20 6:52 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis <<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" class="">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>>:<br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>> Mapbox made a tool [1] to see how complete the road networks in a<br class="">
>>>> country are. Belgium got a 73%<br class="">
>>>> They blogged about it in [2]<br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>> regards<br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>> m<br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>> [1] <a href="https://www.mapbox.com/data-platform/country/#belgium" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.mapbox.com/data-platform/country/#belgium</a><br class="">
>>>> [2] <a href="https://www.mapbox.com/blog/how-complete-is-openstreetmap/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.mapbox.com/blog/how-complete-is-openstreetmap/</a><br class="">
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