<div dir="ltr">Ondertussen een QGIS projectje voor visuele inspectie gemaakt:<div><br><div><a href="http://i.imgur.com/9AgHJDj.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/9AgHJDj.jpg</a><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Puur visueel: OSM wegen worden in transparant blauw over rode WVB wegen gelegd. Dus wat rood is ontbreekt in OSM, wat blauw is ontbreekt in WVB (dat laatste is 'normaal', aangezien ik niet gefilterd heb op trage wegen).</div><div><br></div><div>Lijkt mij een handig werk-instrument, handiger dan geknoei in FME zoals ik eerst voor ogen had.</div><div><br></div><div>Ik dacht een projectje in umap te maken, maar WVB is 300 megabyte in geoJSON, dat kan die niet aan.</div><div><br></div><div>Dus dan maar het QGIS projectje delen? Maar dan zit je weer met het probleem hoe je de OSM wegen er gemakkelijk en up to date in krijgt. In umap kan je gewoon linken aan een Overpass-Turbo query, maar zoiets krijg ik niet aan de praat in QGIS.</div><div><br></div><div>Je kan natuurlijk verwijzen naar de shapefiles/pbf files van Geofabrik, maar dan is het natuurlijk niet live en bovendien liggen ze plat voor het moment.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Iemand ideeen?</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Op 6 december 2015 11:36 schreef Pieter Colpaert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pieter.colpaert@okfn.org" target="_blank">pieter.colpaert@okfn.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Njah... Het probleem is ook wat dat we iedere dag een nieuwe manuele
    downloadprocedure moeten starten ipv gewoon een URI opnieuw te
    kunnen afhalen.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
    <br>
    Pieter</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 06-12-15 11:33, joost schouppe
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Torrenten of mirror zou tof zijn, maar die data
        wordt constant bijgewerkt, dus dan krijg je rap een verouderde
        kopie...
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Op 6 december 2015 10:51 schreef Pieter
          Colpaert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pieter.colpaert@okfn.org" target="_blank">pieter.colpaert@okfn.org</a>></span>:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Zouden we geen mirror
              kunnen opzetten voor deze data (zijn tenslotte open data)
              of deze files torrenten?<br>
              <br>
              Lijkt me beter dan een verschrikkelijk omslachtig
              downloadformulier zonder download resuming. Ook al 2 keer
              proberen downloaded ondertussen... maar sjah.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
                  Pieter</font></span>
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                  <br>
                  <div>On 06-12-15 10:48, joost schouppe wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Sander,
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                      <div>Je kan ook laag per laag downloaden: minder
                        kans op miserie.</div>
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                      </div>
                      <div>Misschien zijn de "wegverbindingen" van Agiv
                        wel nuttiger als het wegenregister: ik denk dat
                        die wegverbindingen volledig zijn voor hetgeen
                        ze willen doen, terwijl wegenregister dan wel
                        breder is (ook trage wegen etc.), maar minder
                        volledig. </div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">Op 5 december 2015 13:42
                        schreef Sander Deryckere <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sanderd17@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:sanderd17@gmail.com" target="_blank">sanderd17@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                                <div>Hmm, net een poging gedaan om het
                                  volledige GRB te downloaden, maar dat
                                  is mislukt.<br>
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                                Het volledige GRB is 15.4GB groot. Maar
                                ergens rond 11GB ging mijn connectie uit
                                voor even. Normaal is dat geen probleem,
                                en wordt de download automatisch hervat.<br>
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                              Helaas eist Agiv dat je ingelogd bent om
                              het GRB te downloaden, en werd mijn
                              request naar een inlogpagina gezonden
                              i.p.v. naar het echte bestand. Het
                              resultaat is: een nutteloze html pagina in
                              mijn downloads en die 11GB die al
                              gedownload was is niet meer te vinden.<br>
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                            Dus aan iedereen die de download probeert:
                            doe het met een stabiele connectie (en
                            zonder pauzes).<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">Op 4 december 2015
                              19:23 schreef Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span>:
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                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">cabine :
                                    Electrical, gas or other cabine<br>
                                    <br>
                                    kan onder man_made=street_cabinet of
                                    misschien<br>
                                    pipeline/power=substation afh. van
                                    de grootte<br>
                                    <br>
                                    in- of uitrit van een parking :
                                    highway=service +
                                    service=parking_aisle<br>
                                    <br>
                                    dacht ik ook, maar via de discussie
                                    op reddit die ik net gelezen heb<br>
                                    [1] moet de toegangsweg
                                    highway=service zijn. Heb dat zelf
                                    nog nooit<br>
                                    zo gemapped. Is ook maar in 2014
                                    toegevoegd aan [2], en ik heb die<br>
                                    wiki pagina al lang niet meer
                                    bekeken<br>
                                    <br>
                                    [1] <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/3uutzo/service_roads_as_lanes_for_parking/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/3uutzo/service_roads_as_lanes_for_parking/</a><br>
                                    [2] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service%3Dparking_aisle" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service%3Dparking_aisle</a><br>
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                                        2015-12-04 18:55 GMT+01:00
                                        Sander Deryckere <<a href="mailto:sanderd17@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:sanderd17@gmail.com" target="_blank">sanderd17@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
                                        > Ik heb geprobeerd de Agiv
                                        en OSM data wat te vergelijken
                                        (onderzoeken welke<br>
                                        > definities gebruikt worden
                                        in OSM vs Agiv). Mijn
                                        bevindingen staan hier:<br>
                                        > <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/GRB" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/GRB</a><br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > In het kort, zeker niet
                                        alles is bruikbaar. Deze zijn de
                                        meest bruikbare<br>
                                        > bestanden voor OSM:<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > * Gbg and delen van Gba: de
                                        gebouw contouren, gevels zijn
                                        van goede<br>
                                        > kwaliteit (door landmeters
                                        opgemeten), in de achterstukken
                                        kunnen soms wat<br>
                                        > fouten zitten<br>
                                        > * Wvb: middellijnen van
                                        straten (met naam, type en
                                        andere data), goede<br>
                                        > kwaliteit, ook niet teveel
                                        nodes<br>
                                        > * Wgr en Wlas: middellijnen
                                        van grachten, beken en rivieren
                                        (met naam),<br>
                                        > goede kwaliteit, zoals
                                        wegen<br>
                                        > * Knw: een hoop
                                        verschillende zaken die we
                                        mappen mat man_made=* in OSM<br>
                                        > * Wga: vooral de bushokjes
                                        en fietsenstallingen zijn
                                        interessant<br>
                                        > * Wgo: vertaling naar de
                                        experimentele area:highway tag?
                                        Conversie niet zo<br>
                                        > gemakkelijk<br>
                                        > * Wti : verkeersplateaus<br>
                                        > * Wni: muurtjes en
                                        vangrails naast de weg<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > De rest komt ofwel niet
                                        overeen met OSM (hun wegbaan
                                        gebieden nemen ook<br>
                                        > delen van voortuinen in, en
                                        de wateroppervlaktes nemen ook
                                        grote delen vaste<br>
                                        > oever in), of heeft geen
                                        equivalent in OSM.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Mvg,<br>
                                        > Sander<br>
                                        ><br>
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