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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Ik vind fietsparkings belangrijk.<div>Alhoewel het er naar mijn zin te veel zijn om zelf te mappen en ze wel ergens in een database moeten staan.</div><div><br></div><div>Bij een tweede passage fotografeer ik ze wel.<br><br><div>Ph Casteleyn <br>Dahliastraat 16<br>
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gsm 0486 516261<br></div><div id="ecxchromeVisPage2ExtensionDiv" style="display:none;">Ctrl+v</div><div id="ecxchromeVisExtension2PageDiv" style="display:none;"></div><span style="border:medium groove rgb(0, 0, 0);min-height:5px;border-radius:7px;display:none;top:0px;min-width:935px;max-width:935px;left:10px;right:100px;"></span><div id="ecxchromeVisBackground2LensDiv" style="display:none;"></div><br><br><div>> From: talk-be-request@openstreetmap.org<br>> Subject: Talk-be Digest, Vol 103, Issue 2<br>> To: talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 13:50:05 +0000<br>> <br>> Send Talk-be mailing list submissions to<br>> talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> talk-be-request@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> talk-be-owner@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Talk-be digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?<br>> (Gerard Vanderveken)<br>> 2. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? (Marc Gemis)<br>> 3. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? (Jo)<br>> 4. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? (Marc Gemis)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 14:53:36 +0200<br>> From: Gerard Vanderveken <Ghia@ghia.eu><br>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?<br>> Message-ID: <577667D0.4080702@ghia.eu><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> Checking on the map, learns me that most items are already thoroughly <br>> mapped (street cabinets, bins, advertising, lanes, crossings,...)<br>> Things lacking, but not derivable from the photo are the division of <br>> buildings and the corresponding addresses of the buildings.<br>> IMO addresses are of more importance then the little street furniture <br>> and should get more priority in mapping.<br>> Not meaning, that I don't appreciate these mappings, every added object <br>> counts!<br>> <br>> When you have lot of time, you could also map the separated footwalk and <br>> bicycle paths, but this is advanced stuff, and I don't recommend it, as <br>> it is not so easy to make a correct separation and have all options for <br>> connections and resulting in no foot etc on the main highway itself, so <br>> that routing programs for bike and foot will always select the correct <br>> paths. If not done well, it makes more clutter then making things real <br>> or clear.<br>> It seems these paths are already good and sufficient tagged in the map.<br>> <br>> So, in short, at first sight, not much extra to map from the photo.<br>> (I assume the sign to TIA is simply a direction and not part of a <br>> (tourist) route, which would imply a missing relation for some bicycle <br>> route/network)<br>> <br>> Regards,<br>> Gerard.<br>> <br>> Marc Gemis wrote:<br>> <br>> >I wonder whether we could learn to see/map more by looking at each<br>> >other's survey pictures. Would it allow novices to "see more" ? Let's<br>> >try out<br>> >I know the mailing list does not allow to include pictures, so you<br>> >have to do it with a link<br>> ><br>> >What could/would you map when you look at [1] ? What would you<br>> >investigate further ?<br>> ><br>> >Feel free to answer in French/German/English or Dutch<br>> ><br>> >p.s. Feel free to look at the other pictures at the site [2] and map<br>> >anything you want :-) Under the picture you'll find a (i) which shows<br>> >a map when you click it<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >---- Nederlands ----<br>> ><br>> >Ik vraag me af of we van elkaar kunnen leren als we kijken naar de<br>> >foto's die we maken tijdens een survey ? Zou het helpen om<br>> >(beginnende) mappers meer te leren zien ? Laat ons het eens<br>> >uitproberen. Jammer genoeg laat de mailing list niet toe om foto's toe<br>> >te voegen, dus moet je het met een link stellen<br>> ><br>> >Wat zou je kunnen mappen, of wat map je gewoonlijk als je [1] bekijkt<br>> >? Wat zou je van nader bij gaan bekijken ?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >p.s. Het staat je vrij om naar de andere foto's op de site [2] te<br>> >kijken en om het even wat te mappen dat je erop ziet :-) Onder de foto<br>> >staat een (i), als je daarop klikt, zie je een kaartje.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >[1] https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g/0/O/DSC_3228.jpg<br>> >[2] gallery: https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g<br>> ><br>> >_______________________________________________<br>> >Talk-be mailing list<br>> >Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> > <br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:31:46 +0200<br>> From: Marc Gemis <marc.gemis@gmail.com><br>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAJKJX-Sf5KBS2i4z_bgyrYqdyWrmCn9UQTn3xiFrDeom6qQoqw@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>> <br>> I know I mapped the place in detail, but I hoped people would mention<br>> what they would map without looking at the map :-)<br>> <br>> I stopped mapping house numbers ( I have collected more than 20.000 by<br>> hand according to Pascal Neis :-) ), as they are imported via CRAB at<br>> the moment and maybe later this year via a GRB import (with the<br>> buildings).<br>> That's why I turned to other stuff.<br>> <br>> I've heard pro's and con's for separate sidewalks & cycleways. I don't<br>> separate them as long as there is no physical barrier (hedge, guard<br>> rail, ditch,...)<br>> I'll try to map sidewalk=... or cycleway=... on the road though.<br>> <br>> I'll have a closer look at the TIA sign<br>> <br>> m.<br>> <br>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <Ghia@ghia.eu> wrote:<br>> > Hi,<br>> ><br>> > Checking on the map, learns me that most items are already thoroughly mapped<br>> > (street cabinets, bins, advertising, lanes, crossings,...)<br>> > Things lacking, but not derivable from the photo are the division of<br>> > buildings and the corresponding addresses of the buildings.<br>> > IMO addresses are of more importance then the little street furniture and<br>> > should get more priority in mapping.<br>> > Not meaning, that I don't appreciate these mappings, every added object<br>> > counts!<br>> ><br>> > When you have lot of time, you could also map the separated footwalk and<br>> > bicycle paths, but this is advanced stuff, and I don't recommend it, as it<br>> > is not so easy to make a correct separation and have all options for<br>> > connections and resulting in no foot etc on the main highway itself, so that<br>> > routing programs for bike and foot will always select the correct paths. If<br>> > not done well, it makes more clutter then making things real or clear.<br>> > It seems these paths are already good and sufficient tagged in the map.<br>> ><br>> > So, in short, at first sight, not much extra to map from the photo.<br>> > (I assume the sign to TIA is simply a direction and not part of a (tourist)<br>> > route, which would imply a missing relation for some bicycle route/network)<br>> ><br>> > Regards,<br>> > Gerard.<br>> ><br>> > Marc Gemis wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> I wonder whether we could learn to see/map more by looking at each<br>> >> other's survey pictures. Would it allow novices to "see more" ? Let's<br>> >> try out<br>> >> I know the mailing list does not allow to include pictures, so you<br>> >> have to do it with a link<br>> >><br>> >> What could/would you map when you look at [1] ? What would you<br>> >> investigate further ?<br>> >><br>> >> Feel free to answer in French/German/English or Dutch<br>> >><br>> >> p.s. Feel free to look at the other pictures at the site [2] and map<br>> >> anything you want :-) Under the picture you'll find a (i) which shows<br>> >> a map when you click it<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> ---- Nederlands ----<br>> >><br>> >> Ik vraag me af of we van elkaar kunnen leren als we kijken naar de<br>> >> foto's die we maken tijdens een survey ? Zou het helpen om<br>> >> (beginnende) mappers meer te leren zien ? Laat ons het eens<br>> >> uitproberen. Jammer genoeg laat de mailing list niet toe om foto's toe<br>> >> te voegen, dus moet je het met een link stellen<br>> >><br>> >> Wat zou je kunnen mappen, of wat map je gewoonlijk als je [1] bekijkt<br>> >> ? Wat zou je van nader bij gaan bekijken ?<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> p.s. Het staat je vrij om naar de andere foto's op de site [2] te<br>> >> kijken en om het even wat te mappen dat je erop ziet :-) Onder de foto<br>> >> staat een (i), als je daarop klikt, zie je een kaartje.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> [1]<br>> >> https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g/0/O/DSC_3228.jpg<br>> >> [2] gallery:<br>> >> https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g<br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Talk-be mailing list<br>> >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Talk-be mailing list<br>> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:43:26 +0200<br>> From: Jo <winfixit@gmail.com><br>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAJ6DwMAHmg1xwiRdS-WppwFYP7nypkw=r0WDMjx7pBuHVC78Hg@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> They put that sign there, so I'd remember how to get to my aunt's house.<br>> She's Spanish...<br>> <br>> What about the buttons on the traffic lights? And in how much detail to map<br>> those traffic lights?<br>> <br>> Gerard, addresses are indeed important. Glenn needs beta testers for adding<br>> them from CRAB/AGIV. I'm rather busy with improving JOSM to map public<br>> transport, so I'm not getting around to it to test his work, but he's<br>> making great progress.<br>> Soon, it should become possible for everybody who uses JOSM to map those<br>> public transport routes and if they get broken by changes to the underlying<br>> infrastructure, to figure out how to fix them with as little effort as<br>> possible.<br>> <br>> Cheers,<br>> <br>> Jo<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> 2016-07-01 15:31 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis@gmail.com>:<br>> <br>> > I know I mapped the place in detail, but I hoped people would mention<br>> > what they would map without looking at the map :-)<br>> ><br>> > I stopped mapping house numbers ( I have collected more than 20.000 by<br>> > hand according to Pascal Neis :-) ), as they are imported via CRAB at<br>> > the moment and maybe later this year via a GRB import (with the<br>> > buildings).<br>> > That's why I turned to other stuff.<br>> ><br>> > I've heard pro's and con's for separate sidewalks & cycleways. I don't<br>> > separate them as long as there is no physical barrier (hedge, guard<br>> > rail, ditch,...)<br>> > I'll try to map sidewalk=... or cycleway=... on the road though.<br>> ><br>> > I'll have a closer look at the TIA sign<br>> ><br>> > m.<br>> ><br>> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <Ghia@ghia.eu> wrote:<br>> > > Hi,<br>> > ><br>> > > Checking on the map, learns me that most items are already thoroughly<br>> > mapped<br>> > > (street cabinets, bins, advertising, lanes, crossings,...)<br>> > > Things lacking, but not derivable from the photo are the division of<br>> > > buildings and the corresponding addresses of the buildings.<br>> > > IMO addresses are of more importance then the little street furniture and<br>> > > should get more priority in mapping.<br>> > > Not meaning, that I don't appreciate these mappings, every added object<br>> > > counts!<br>> > ><br>> > > When you have lot of time, you could also map the separated footwalk and<br>> > > bicycle paths, but this is advanced stuff, and I don't recommend it, as<br>> > it<br>> > > is not so easy to make a correct separation and have all options for<br>> > > connections and resulting in no foot etc on the main highway itself, so<br>> > that<br>> > > routing programs for bike and foot will always select the correct paths.<br>> > If<br>> > > not done well, it makes more clutter then making things real or clear.<br>> > > It seems these paths are already good and sufficient tagged in the map.<br>> > ><br>> > > So, in short, at first sight, not much extra to map from the photo.<br>> > > (I assume the sign to TIA is simply a direction and not part of a<br>> > (tourist)<br>> > > route, which would imply a missing relation for some bicycle<br>> > route/network)<br>> > ><br>> > > Regards,<br>> > > Gerard.<br>> > ><br>> > > Marc Gemis wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > >> I wonder whether we could learn to see/map more by looking at each<br>> > >> other's survey pictures. Would it allow novices to "see more" ? Let's<br>> > >> try out<br>> > >> I know the mailing list does not allow to include pictures, so you<br>> > >> have to do it with a link<br>> > >><br>> > >> What could/would you map when you look at [1] ? What would you<br>> > >> investigate further ?<br>> > >><br>> > >> Feel free to answer in French/German/English or Dutch<br>> > >><br>> > >> p.s. Feel free to look at the other pictures at the site [2] and map<br>> > >> anything you want :-) Under the picture you'll find a (i) which shows<br>> > >> a map when you click it<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> ---- Nederlands ----<br>> > >><br>> > >> Ik vraag me af of we van elkaar kunnen leren als we kijken naar de<br>> > >> foto's die we maken tijdens een survey ? Zou het helpen om<br>> > >> (beginnende) mappers meer te leren zien ? Laat ons het eens<br>> > >> uitproberen. Jammer genoeg laat de mailing list niet toe om foto's toe<br>> > >> te voegen, dus moet je het met een link stellen<br>> > >><br>> > >> Wat zou je kunnen mappen, of wat map je gewoonlijk als je [1] bekijkt<br>> > >> ? Wat zou je van nader bij gaan bekijken ?<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> p.s. Het staat je vrij om naar de andere foto's op de site [2] te<br>> > >> kijken en om het even wat te mappen dat je erop ziet :-) Onder de foto<br>> > >> staat een (i), als je daarop klikt, zie je een kaartje.<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> [1]<br>> > >><br>> > https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g/0/O/DSC_3228.jpg<br>> > >> [2] gallery:<br>> > >> https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g<br>> > >><br>> > >> _______________________________________________<br>> > >> Talk-be mailing list<br>> > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> > >><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Talk-be mailing list<br>> > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Talk-be mailing list<br>> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/attachments/20160701/0f3e2b4a/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:49:37 +0200<br>> From: Marc Gemis <marc.gemis@gmail.com><br>> To: Jo Hannes <WinFixIT@gmail.com>, OpenStreetMap Belgium<br>> <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAJKJX-Rmxdp3oSs51s9e5tw-iECDz8t5Ej1UgAsANJ1AiX7yOA@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>> <br>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jo <winfixit@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > What about the buttons on the traffic lights? And in how much detail to map<br>> > those traffic lights?<br>> <br>> O, nice one !<br>> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing you could<br>> use "button_operated=yes"<br>> <br>> m<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Subject: Digest Footer<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Talk-be mailing list<br>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<br>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be<br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> End of Talk-be Digest, Vol 103, Issue 2<br>> ***************************************<br></div></div> </div></body>
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