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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oops, I’ll try to fix that this weekend !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>@Glenn : I already use Let’s Encrypt certificate for the Task Manager ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry for the inconvenience !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-BE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan Beliën<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Abelshausen [mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.com] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 8 novembre 2016 16:49<br><b>À :</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing Maps, in Belgium<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I did some tests and remote control doesn't work in JOSM, probably because we use HTTPS. I tried with <a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org">tasks.hotosm.org</a> but no HTTPS there.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>There is an HTTPS option in JOSM but that also doesn't work. Can we update our taskingmanager to trigger JOSM's remote control using HTTPS?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>Best regards,<br><br>Ben Abelshausen<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Glenn Plas <<a href="mailto:glenn@byte-consult.be" target="_blank">glenn@byte-consult.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I do agree, for more widespread things like missing streets, it's<br>probably quite useful. En per 'theme' like shops, it's excellent. I<br>didn't know you could not-use the squares, but like I said, my R&D was<br>on task manager 1, and I understand it's at major version 2 now.<br><br>But for GRB (and that is the kicker of my solution) You don't need a<br>task manager as the diff's between GRB to-be-imported data and the<br>existing data is solved in the browser itself. So that's a seamless<br>situation. You can do it per building(s) (when I'm done adding that<br>small functionality). It's now using the view bounding box to limit the<br>data.<br><br>Since JOSM is the catalyst in this solution, we benefit from all things<br>JOSM brings (validation/mapcss etc.) to the table.<br><br>The missing roads is probably on the top of the list of (want)todo's.<br><br>@marc : I've seen some of 'his/her' work too and there are indeed some<br>small issues from time to time. But this person is willing to change<br>his habits too, I've had some comments in the past (slow roads/trage<br>wegen) and he made hist tagging more consistent so (s)he's open for<br>suggestions.<br><br>Glenn<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On 08-11-16 12:59, joost schouppe wrote:<br>> Honestly I wasn't thinking about organizing your work with this tasking<br>> manager :)<br>> If you enjoy your heavy surveying or your efficient imports, I<br>> absolutely agree there is no extra value in a tasking manager.<br>> I'm more interested in tools that help finding new mappers, help them on<br>> their first steps and hopefully turn a few of them into mappers as crazy<br>> as you guys.<br>><br>> Here's how I'm using it myself in the example task:<br>> - map those roads that are present in Wegenregister and clearly missing<br>> in OSM<br>> - make fixme notes for cases where it isn't quite clear<br>> - When this is done, I mark the task as "ready". Then I load the data to<br>> my Osmand, and go for a walk where I check some fixme's in the field<br>> (there's a layer for that in Osmand).<br>> - When the findings are incorporated into the data, I can finally<br>> "validate" the tile.<br>><br>> This is useful to me because it allows me to keep focused on the task at<br>> hand (I've been known to wander), make sure I cover the entire territory<br>> and go out surveying efficiently (I don't really go out surveying, I<br>> walk the dog in areas where I haven't been yet). And Wegspotter mapped a<br>> few squares yesterday, so now I can skip straight to the dog-walking<br>> part in that area.<br>><br>> In other tasks, this flow could be entirely different. For the "shops<br>> with mapillary in Brussels" example, you could easily have a flow where<br>> beginners do the labour of translating mapillary images into shops. The<br>> validation would then be to check the tagging and mark spots where the<br>> imagery wasn't complete enough. A last surveying phase would be to grab<br>> a mobile editor and add those last shops. But that would then be<br>> possible on a quick walk - you wouldn't have to be using the clumsy<br>> mobile editor or walking paper all the time. A lot of people are turned<br>> off by surveying because you're collecting so much data that the mapping<br>> afterwards takes way too long. In this little idea, you could map in the<br>> field without freezing to death.<br>><br>> On a technical note: you don't have to use squares. You can also upload<br>> a custom task division. For city mapping, neighborhoods would be<br>> perfect. For Missing Maps Wallonia, it could be "residential areas<br>> without buildings". For a GRB import, it could be tiny tiny squares, or<br>> a custom division of Flanders into areas with similar numbers of buildings.<br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Joost @<br>> Openstreetmap<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>> <<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/</a>> | Twitter<br>> <<a href="https://twitter.com/joostjakob" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/joostjakob</a>> | LinkedIn<br>> <<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603</a>> | Meetup<br>> <<a href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/" target="_blank">http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Talk-be mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</a><br>><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-be mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org">Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>