<div dir="ltr">Hi, <div><br></div><div>Concerning the wood-tag : I was personally using the first approach <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest" target="_blank">Here</a> where it says that natural=wood is for area covered by tree, and natural=forest is for area managed for land forestry (like plantation in the Ardennes). And most of the time, the only "wood" areas are the place around motorway intersections for example (between the roads, you often have an area covered by tree, without real management). </div><div><br></div><div>I agree with you about fenced area that correspond to pasture/meadow. But I would also include, based on local knowledge only, some non-fenced area as landuse=meadow when it is an area for cutting only (to feed cattle for example) like it is often the case in some part of Wallonia. It's sometimes area that are unsuitable for agriculture, but used just to feed cattle without letting them graze on it (like when it is too dangerous). </div><div>And for any uncultivated area, composed of mostly grasses and herbaceous, there always is the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgrassland" target="_blank">natural=grassland</a> tag.</div><div><br></div><div>Every other cultivated area, should then only be orchard or farmland. The only problem can be when a combination of different types of agriculture occur at the same place, then i don't know how to map. </div><div><br></div><div id="m_-9078182235892435705DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2">Lionel<br> <table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de">
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Hi,<br>
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One remark for the wood-tag:<br>
<font color="#009900">The tag <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dwood" target="_blank">natural=wood</a>
is sometimes used for forests, but since natural=wood would refers to
unmanaged, natural forests, IMHO it should not be used in Belgium since
no more forests are completely natural: every patches of forest in
Belgium has experienced human interventions in the recent history.</font><br>
In several forests Zoniënwoud, Meerdaalwoud, ... are some nature
reserves. <br>
Places where nature can have its course and where only very minimal
human intervention take place (eg clearance of paths)<br>
I think these reserves (Joseph Zwaenepoel, Kerselaerplein,
Everzwijnbad, Pruikemakers) could qualify as wood.<br>
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I think meadow is a good tag for the grass lands. Conversion between
farmland and grass land takes somtetimes place but mosttimes as
incidental crop harvest of grass.<br>
Making a pasture requires also fencing, which is not a temporary
measure.<br>
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So, when there is a grass land without fence surrounded by farmland, it
is likely farmland.<br>
Other grass lands are usually fenced and are meadow.<br>
Local knowledge will tell if it is to be one or the other<br>
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Regards,<br>
Gerard.<br>
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Julien Minet wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi list, <br>
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Following some discussions about landuse=farmland|meadow some times ago
in this list, I've written an article here (<a href="http://www.nobohan.be/2017/04/20/landuse-osm-belgium/" target="_blank">http://www.nobohan.be/2017/<wbr>04/20/landuse-osm-belgium/</a>)
about land-use mapping in Belgium: what could be the best practices
adapted to the Belgian landscape. Of course, there's matter for
discussions about that topic ;-)<br>
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<div>I think this text could be used to make a page on <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/<wbr>Conventions/</a>,
since it discuss what are the local conventions for land-use mapping in
Belgium. <br>
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Do you also want to put this text on <a href="http://osm.be" target="_blank">osm.be</a>,
similarly to the Marc Gemis articles? Maybe a better place for
discussions...<br>
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<div>Cheers, <br>
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<div>Julien<br>
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