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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you all for you answers.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Indeed, labelling is the most challenging part. I think I have to play a little bit with different tools and see what
is feasible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The map we already created (from UrbIS) is currently a web map served by Mapserver (it can be printed to pdf from a web
interface). Currently, part of my labels are attached to points and part of them are attached to the street polyline for curved streets. I never managed to create curved labels with line breaks (for short and curved streets) using mapserver (or QGIS). That's
also what made my labelling process a bit laborious I think.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">@Marc: the map should be bilingual, it is supposed to be used by the firemen in Brussels as a paper 'backup' for their
navigation system. It is printed in advance and you don't know which language speaks the person who will use it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">@Jo: I agree that the fr-nl combinated street names looks weird but people seem to get used to it quite easily (I tend
to "glue" the straat/plein ending and it doesn't seem to be a big deal for the frenchspeaking users)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">@Julien: I think I'll do some tests with Mapnik (never tried yet).
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We'll keep in touch!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Nadia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> PONCELET Nadia (Firebru) <nadia.poncelet@firebru.brussels>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 6 mars 2019 09:53<br>
<b>À :</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [OSM-talk-be] how to create a 'ready-to-print' city map from OSM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I would like to create some map from OSM that could be printed on paper at the approximate scale of 1:5000 and where all street names would appear on the map and
be easy to read.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is quite tricky I think, especially for Brussels where street names usually have a french and a dutch version. I have already done this exercise previously
using UrbIS and I had to use some tricks such as shortening the names by combining the french and dutch versions when possible (e.g. "Rue de l'Ommegangstr." or "Quai F. Demetskaai") and widen the streets. I don't care that the streets are no more "at scale",
the important is that all (or most) street names are legible. The rendering is similar to De Rouck map guides or 'Bruxelles en poche' for those who know these books. In long streets, the name can also be repeated several times.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My final result from UrbIS was more or less satisfactory (even if it still required some workforce to displace manually a few toponyms at the end) but I would
like to be able to create the same kind of map from OSM for a larger area than the Brussels Region and also be able to update it periodically.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Before I start working on this, would you have some advice or know any people/projects/tools/libraries/ideas that could be a source of inspiration (maybe from
‘OSM on paper’ wiki page)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you very much for your answers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nadia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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