<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Yves,</div><div><br></div><div>Sounds good. We'll need to update at least these pages:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed#Belgium">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed#Belgium</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed#Belgium">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed#Belgium</a></div><div><br></div><div>Have you given it any thought how we might organize the update efficiently? I thought perhaps the ways now tagged with source:maxspeed=[something urban] could be bulk-edited after the change, but it looks like many of those roads might actually change to explicitly signed 50 during the transition. So I'm thinking we need to review ALL the roads with a maxspeed again after the change. To do that, maybe we could take a dump before the change and use that for some sort of mapping challenge, or add a tag to indicate that the maxpseed should be reviewed (the risk being that people might correct the maxpseed and not remove the tag).</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div>Joost<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op zo 10 mei 2020 om 22:25 schreef Yves bxl-forever <<a href="mailto:bxl-forever@linuxmail.org">bxl-forever@linuxmail.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello, folks,<br>
<br>
As of January 2021, Brussels will change the default maxspeed on urban roads to become an all-30-kph city. This goes for the entire Brussels-Capital Region (161 km²).<br>
Basically, the idea is the following:<br>
* no speed roadsign will mean 30-kph<br>
* on the main roads there will be C43 signs with a 50-kph limit (or possibly 70-kph on the biggest ones); those signs are to be repeated after every intersection.<br>
* living streets (20-kph) or pedestrian areas are left untouched<br>
* motorways are left untouched<br>
<br>
The good point is that it will be much easier than now—for drivers and for mappers alike—to know whether 50 or 30-kph applies somewhere.<br>
I will no longer use BE:urban because it’s not the same in every Region.<br>
<br>
May I suggest the following tagging scheme<br>
* maxspeed=30 + source:maxspeed=BE-BXL:urban<br>
* maxspeed=50 (or 70) + source:maxspeed=sign<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
Cheers.<br>
Yves<br>
<br>
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